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Hebrews 12:7

in Hebrews 12

Endure suffering as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father?

BSB

The same verse in ASV and KJV ▾

ASV

It is for chastening that ye endure; God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is there whom his father chasteneth not?

KJV

If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

This verse in Hebrews 12

Commentary

11 notes on this verse

A commentator

Theodoret of Cyrus

INTERPRETATION OF HEBREWS 12 · Written before 458.

Fathers are in the habit of disciplining their true children, and if they see them caned by the teachers, they do not worry; they see the fruit coming from the discipline. But they despise illegitimate children and do not accord them equal attention. So if …

This site's exposition

God is treating you as sons

on Hebrews 12:7-8

The suffering becomes the proof of sonship, Endure suffering as discipline, for God is treating you as sons. Verse 8 states the reverse with a hard word, illegitimate children and not true sons. The absence of discipline is the sign to fear.

The record, by era

The Church Fathers2 voices

A commentator

Augustine of Hippo

ON THE TRINITY 14.1.1 · Written before 430.

proposed

Although the same word, indeed, is employed in a different sense, where any one suffers evils for his sins, that he may be corrected. Whence is that in the Epistle to the Hebrews, "For what son is he to whom the father giveth not discipline?" And this is still more apparent in the same epistle: "Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby."

A commentator

John Chrysostom

Homily on Hebrews 29 · Written before 407.

proposed

"Ye endure chastisement" (he says); not for punishment, nor for vengeance, nor for suffering. See, from that from which they supposed they had been deserted of God, from these he says they may be confident, that they have not been deserted. It is as if he had said, Because ye have suffered so many evils, do you suppose that God has left you and hates you? If ye did not suffer, then it were right to suppose this. For if "He scourgeth every son whom He receiveth," he who is not scourged, perhaps is not a son. What then, you say, do not bad men suffer distress? They suffer indeed; how then? He did not say, Every one who is scourged is a son, but every son is scourged. For in all cases He scourges His son: what is wanted then is to show, whether any son is not scourged. But thou wouldest not be able to say: there are many wicked men also who are scourged, such as murderers, robbers, sorcerers, plunderers of tombs. These however are paying the penalty of their own wickedness, and are not scourged as sons, but punished as wicked: but ye as sons.

The Medieval Church2 voices

A commentator

Thomas Aquinas

Commentary on Hebrews · Written before 1274.

proposed

675. – Then (v. 7) he shows the meaning of the above scriptural quotation: first, he explains the meaning of the admonition; secondly, the meaning of the reason; thirdly, he shows that the reason is fitting (v. 7c). 676. – The Apostle's advice was not …

A commentator

Theophylact of Ohrid

Commentary on Hebrews · Written before 1107.

proposed

Using the example of those whom they thought were abandoned by God, he shows them that they were an object of God's care. For if you were free from afflictions, it would turn out that you are illegitimate children, and not sons. For what father …

The Puritans and the Awakening1 voice

A commentator

Matthew Henry

1662–1714

Commentary on the Whole Bible (1710)

(4.) To be suffered to go on in sin without a rebuke is a sad sign of alienation from God; such are bastards, not sons. They may call him Father, because born in the pale of the church; but they are the spurious offspring of another father, not of God,
4 more voices on this verse

The Puritans and the Awakening1 voice

If ye endure chastening,.... In faith, with patience, with courage and constancy, with humility and reverence: there are many things which may encourage and animate the saints to endure it in such a manner; as that it is but a chastening, and the chastening of a father; it should be considered from whence it comes, and for what ends; that it comes from the Lord, and is for his glory, and their good; the example of Christ, and of other saints, should excite unto it.

The Nineteenth Century3 voices

If ye endure chastening - That is, if you undergo, or are called to experience correction. It does not mean here, “if you endure it patiently; or if you bear up under it;” but “if you are chastised or corrected by God.” The affirmation does not relate to the manner of bearing it, but to the fact that we are disciplined. God dealeth with you as with sons - He does not cast you off and regard you as if you were in no way related to him.

A commentator

Jamieson, Fausset & Brown

1802–1910

Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871)

In Heb 12:7, 8 the need of "chastening" or "discipline" is inculcated; in Heb 12:9, the duty of those to whom it is administered. If--The oldest manuscripts read, "With a view to chastening (that is, since God's chastisement is with a view to your chastening, that is, disciplinary amelioration) endure patiently"; so Vulgate.

A commentator

Adam Clarke

1762–1832

Commentary on the Bible · Written before 1832.

proposed

If ye endure chastening - If ye submit to his authority, humble yourselves under his hand, and pray for his blessing, you will find that he deals with you as beloved children, correcting you that he may make you partakers of his holiness. God dealeth with you as with sons - He acknowledges by this that you belong to the family, and that he, as your Father, has you under proper discipline. It is a maxim among the Jewish rabbins that “the love which is not conjoined with reproof is not genuine.”

The words behind it

16 Greek words

Every Greek word of this verse in the order it stands, with what it means and the door to its own study. The last column counts the times a word stands in the whole Bible: the rarer the word, the more the places it appears belong together.

A shaded row is a word that stands 400 times or fewer in the Bible.

The walk

8 stops

Each card is a verse this one points to, and under it the verses that one points to in turn. Where several paths arrive at the same place, that place is listed first: the text keeps returning to it.

  • Through

    Proverbs 13:24

    He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him disciplines him diligently.

    it leads to

    • Proverbs 23:13–14

      Do not withhold discipline from a child; although you strike him with a rod, he will not die.

      Reached by 3 separate paths from here.

    • Proverbs 29:15

      A rod of correction imparts wisdom, but a child left to himself disgraces his mother.

      Reached by 3 separate paths from here.

    • Proverbs 22:15

      Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline drives it far from him.

      Reached by 4 separate paths from here.

    • Proverbs 29:17

      Discipline your son, and he will give you rest; he will bring delight to your soul.

      Reached by 2 separate paths from here.

    • Proverbs 19:18

      Discipline your son, for in that there is hope; do not be party to his death.

  • Through

    Proverbs 19:18

    Discipline your son, for in that there is hope; do not be party to his death.

    it leads to

    • Proverbs 13:24

      He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him disciplines him diligently.

      Reached by 3 separate paths from here.

  • Through

    Proverbs 29:15

    A rod of correction imparts wisdom, but a child left to himself disgraces his mother.

    it leads to

    • Proverbs 10:1

      The proverbs of Solomon: A wise son brings joy to his father, but a foolish son grief to his mother.

      Reached by 2 separate paths from here.

  • Through

    Deuteronomy 8:5

    So know in your heart that just as a man disciplines his son, so the LORD your God disciplines you.

    it leads to

    • Revelation 3:19

      Those I love, I rebuke and discipline. Therefore be earnest and repent.

Where this verse is studied

About Hebrews

The Meeting of Abraham and Melchizedek, Dieric Bouts, 1464 to 1467. Public domain.
The Meeting of Abraham and Melchizedek, Dieric Bouts, 1464 to 1467. Public domain.
This page draws on 12 works. Open the list of works

This page draws on Adam Clarke, Commentary on the Bible; Albert Barnes, Notes, Explanatory and Practical, on the Old and New Testaments (1832-1869); Augustine of Hippo, ON THE TRINITY 14.1.1; Jamieson, Fausset & Brown, Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible; John Calvin, Commentary on Hebrews; John Chrysostom, Homily on Hebrews 29; John Gill, Exposition of the New Testament (1746-1748); John Owen, An Exposition of the Epistle to the Hebrews; Matthew Henry, Commentary on the Whole Bible; Theodoret of Cyrus, INTERPRETATION OF HEBREWS 12; Theophylact of Ohrid, Commentary on Hebrews and Thomas Aquinas, Commentary on Hebrews.