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2 Samuel 12:22

in 2 Samuel 12

David answered, “While the child was alive, I fasted and wept, for I said, ‘Who knows? The LORD may be gracious to me and let him live.’

BSB

The same verse in ASV and KJV

ASV

And he said, While the child was yet alive, I fasted and wept: for I said, Who knoweth whether Jehovah will not be gracious to me, that the child may live?

KJV

And he said, While the child was yet alive, I fasted and wept: for I said, Who can tell whether God will be gracious to me, that the child may live?

This verse in 2 Samuel 12

Commentary

8 notes on this verse

A commentator

Ambrose of Milan

CONSOLATION ON THE DEATH OF EMPEROR VALENTINIAN 47.48 · Written before 397.

Thus David wept for his son who was about to die; he did not grieve for him when dead. He wept that he might not be snatched from him, but he ceased to weep when he was snatched away, for he knew that he was with Christ. And that you may know what I declare is true, he wept for his incestuous son Amnon when he was killed, and he mourned for the parricide Absalom when he perished, saying, "My son Absalom, my son Absalom!"

This site's exposition

washed, and anointed himself, and changed his apparel

on 2 Samuel 12:20-23

David rises, washes, changes his apparel and goes first to the house of the Lord to worship before he eats, reversing every sign of mourning the household had just watched him carry for seven days. His servants ask the plain question, and his answer turns on one line, I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me, spoken while fasting could still move God and set aside once it no longer could. Adam Clarke reads the line as at least the shape of a hope beyond this life, whether or not David meant to state the doctrine outright, and John Wesley reads it as David's own confidence that he would find his son in the state where the dead are kept. The worship before the meal is itself an answer to the household's confusion, for David has already made his case to God and now receives whatever God gives.

This site's exposition

The LORD may be gracious to me

Adam Clarke explains that Israel took the threatenings of God as conditional, so even after a plain sentence men sought a change of purpose. David hoped the life of the child might hang on some unspoken condition such as prayer and fasting. Matthew Henry says that while life lasts, prayer has room.

The record, by era

The Church Fathers2 voices

A commentator

Ambrose of Milan

On the Death of Satyrus 2.25-26 · Written before 397.

proposed

Holy David lost two sons. One was guilty of incest, the other of fratricide. To have had them caused him shame; to have lost them brought him grief. He also lost a third, a child whom he loved. He wept over him while he was still alive, but he did not long for him after he died. For so we read that when the boy fell sick, David besought the Lord for him and fasted and lay upon sackcloth, and, although the elders approached him and tried to make him get up from the ground, he resolved neither to rise nor to eat. After he learned that the boy was dead, however, he arose from the ground, bathed upon the spot, anointed himself, changed clothing, worshiped the Lord and took food. Since this seemed strange to his servants, he answered that while the child was still alive, he had rightly fasted and wept, because he justly thought that God might pity him and was certain that he who could restore the dead to life could surely preserve the life of one still living. But now that the child was dead, why should he fast, since he could not bring him back from death and restore him to life. "I shall go to him rather;" he said, "but he shall not return to me."What greater consolation to a mourner! What a true judgment from a wise man! What wonderful wisdom exhibited by a servant! [Thus] no one should protest that some misfortune has befallen him and complain that he has been afflicted contrary to his merit. For who are you to proclaim your merit beforehand? Why do you desire to anticipate your judge? Why do you snatch the verdict from the mouth of him who is going to pronounce it?

A commentator

John Chrysostom

HOMILIES ON COLOSSIANS 8 · Written in the 5th century.

proposed

King David loved his child, and sat indeed in sackcloth and ashes, but he neither brought soothsayers, nor enchanters, (although there were such then, as Saul shows,) but he made supplication to God. So do thou likewise: as that just man did, so do thou also; the same words say thou, when thy child is dead, "I shall go to him, but he will not come to me." This is true wisdom, this is affection. However much thou mayst love thy child, thou wilt not love so much as he did then. For even though his child were born of adultery, yet that blessed man's love of the mother was at its height, and ye know that the offspring shares the love of the parents. And so great was his love toward it, that he even wished it to live, though it would be his own accuser, but still he gave thanks to God.

The Puritans and the Awakening2 voices

And he said, while the child was yet alive,....

A commentator

Matthew Henry

1662–1714

Commentary on the Whole Bible (1710)

proposed

When our relations and friends have fallen sick, the prayer of faith has prevailed much; while there is life there is hope, and, while there is hope, there is room for prayer.

The Nineteenth Century1 voice

A commentator

Adam Clarke

1762–1832

Commentary on the Bible · Written before 1832.

Who can tell - David, and indeed all others under the Mosaic dispensation, were so satisfied that all God’s threatenings and promises were conditional, that even in the most positive assertions relative to judgments, etc., they sought for a change of purpose. And notwithstanding the positive declaration of Nathan, relative to the death of the child, David sought for its life, not knowing but that might depend on some unexpressed condition, such as earnest prayer, fasting, humiliation, etc., and in these he continued while there was hope.

The words behind it

14 Hebrew words

Every Hebrew word of this verse in the order it stands, with what it means and the door to its own study. The last column counts the times a word stands in the whole Bible: the rarer the word, the more the places it appears belong together.

  • וַיֹּ֕אמֶרand he said

    vaiyomerH5595305 times

  • בְּעוֹד֙while still

    beodH5750490 times

  • הַיֶּ֣לֶדthe child

    haiyeledH320689 times

  • חַ֔י[was] alive

    chaiH2416498 times

  • צַ֖מְתִּיI fasted

    tzamtiH668421 times

  • וָֽאֶבְכֶּ֑הand I wept

    vaevkehH1058114 times

  • כִּ֤יfor

    kiH35884482 times

  • אָמַ֙רְתִּי֙I said

    ʾamartiH5595305 times

  • מִ֣יwho?

    miH4310423 times

  • יוֹדֵ֔עַ[is] knowing

    yodea'H3045945 times

  • וְחַנַּ֥נִיand he will show favor to me

    yechananiH2603

  • יְהוָ֖הYahweh

    yahwehH30686520 times

  • וְחַ֥יand he will live

    vechaiH2421282 times

  • הַיָּֽלֶד׃the child

    haiyaledH320689 times

A shaded row is a word that stands 400 times or fewer in the Bible.

The walk

8 stops

Each card is a verse this one points to, and under it the verses that one points to in turn. Where several paths arrive at the same place, that place is listed first: the text keeps returning to it.

  • Through

    Joel 2:14

    Who knows? He may turn and relent and leave a blessing behind Him—grain and drink offerings for the LORD your God.

    it leads to

    • Jonah 3:9

      Who knows? God may turn and relent; He may turn from His fierce anger, so that we will not perish.”

      Reached by 2 separate paths from here.

    • Haggai 2:19

      Is there still seed in the barn? The vine, the fig, the pomegranate, and the olive tree have not yet yielded fruit. But from this day on, I will bless you.”

  • Through

    Isaiah 38:5

    “Go and tell Hezekiah that this is what the LORD, the God of your father David, says: ‘I have heard your prayer; I have seen your tears. Behold, I will add fifteen years to…

    it leads to

    • 1 John 5:14–15

      And this is the confidence that we have before Him: If we ask anything according to His will, He hears us.

    • Psalms 34:5–6

      Those who look to Him are radiant with joy; their faces shall never be ashamed.

    • Revelation 7:17

      For the Lamb in the center of the throne will be their shepherd. ‘He will lead them to springs of living water,’ and ‘God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.’”

    • Luke 1:13

      But the angel said to him, “Do not be afraid, Zechariah, because your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you are to give him the name John.

    • Psalms 147:3

      He heals the brokenhearted and binds up their wounds.

  • Through

    Jonah 1:6

    The captain approached him and said, “How can you sleep? Get up and call upon your God. Perhaps this God will consider us, so that we may not perish.”

    it leads to

    • Psalms 107:28–29

      Then they cried out to the LORD in their trouble, and He brought them out of their distress.

Where this verse is studied

About 2 Samuel

This page draws on Adam Clarke, Commentary on the Bible; Ambrose of Milan, CONSOLATION ON THE DEATH OF EMPEROR VALENTINIAN 47.48; Ambrose of Milan, On the Death of Satyrus 2.25-26; John Chrysostom, HOMILIES ON COLOSSIANS 8; John Gill, Exposition of the Old Testament (1748-1763); John Wesley, Explanatory Notes upon the Old Testament and Matthew Henry, Commentary on the Whole Bible.