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John 17:16

in John 17

They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.

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They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

KJV

They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

This verse in John 17

Commentary

17 notes on this verse

A commentator

John Cassian

CONFERENCE 1.7.2, 4-5 · Written before 435.

The Lord speaks to his Father in the Gospel as follows: "They are not of the world, as I am not of the world." … No one can understand the truth and force of this except one who has gone through the trials of what [Jesus] was talking about—one who has been under the teacher of experience.

This site's exposition

They are not of the world

on John 17:16-17

Verse 16 repeats verse 14 word for word. Sanctify them by the truth asks that they be set apart for God, which is what sanctify means. Your word is truth names the means, the word the Father gave the Son and the Son gave them.

The record, by era

The Church Fathers5 voices

A commentator

Augustine of Hippo

Tractates on John 108 · Written before 430.

proposed

Then He repeats the same statement: "They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them in the truth." For thus are they kept from the evil, as He had previously prayed that they might be. But it may be inquired how they were no more of the world, if they were not yet sanctified in the truth; or, if they already were, why He requests that they should be so. Is it not because even those who are sanctified still continue to make progress in the same sanctification, and grow in holiness; and do not so without the aid of God's grace, but by His sanctifying of their progress, even as He sanctified their outset? And hence the apostle likewise says: "He who hath begun a good work in you, will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ."

A commentator

Augustine of Hippo

Catena Aurea by Aquinas · Written before 430.

proposed

(Tr. cviii) He repeats the same thing again; They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

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Cyril of Alexandria

Commentary on the Gospel of John - Book 11 · Written before 444.

proposed

By these words He indicates once more, and makes clear to us, the reason why He requires to ascend to God the Father, and why so to do becomes Him, while He is still our Mediator, and High Priest, and Advocate, according to the Holy Scripture; and shows us that it is in order that, if at any time we encounter failure, or miss the straight path in thought or action, or are assailed by unexpected perils or buffeted by the tempest of the devil's malice, He may approach His Father on our behalf in His appropriate character as Mediator; and join with Him in granting good gifts to those who are worthy. For it would well become Him so to do, as He is God by Nature. Those then, He says, who have received Thy Word, O Father, through Me, show forth My Likeness in themselves and are conformed to the pattern of Thine own Son, who, like Him, pass unscathed through the ocean of the world's wickedness, and have shown themselves foreigners and strangers to the love of pleasure in this life, and every kind of vice. Therefore keep them in Thy truth, for exceeding purity is inherent in Christ. For He is truly God, and cannot be subject to sin nor endure it, but is rather the fountain of all goodness, and the beauty of holiness. For the Divine Nature, that ruleth over all, can do nothing but what is in truth suitable and belongeth thereto. And the holy disciples, I mean all who believe on Him, cannot otherwise exhibit purity unspotted by the wickedness of this world than by means of forgiveness and grace from above, which putteth away the defilement of previous offences and the accusing sins of their past lives; and, further, conferring on them the glory of a life of sanctification, though their continuance therein be not free from conflict, as Paul wisely teaches us, saying: Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. […]

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John Chrysostom

Homily on the Gospel of John 82 · Written before 407.

proposed

"They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world." How then saith He in another place, "Which Thou gavest Me out of the world; Thine they were"? There He speaketh of their nature; here of wicked actions. And He putteth together a long encomium of them; first, that "they were not of the world"; then, that "the Father Himself had given them"; and that "they had kept His word;" and that on this account "they were hated." And if He saith, "As I am not of the world," be not troubled; for the "as" is not here expressive of unvarying exactness. For as, when in the case of Him and the Father the "as" is used, a great Equality is signified, because of the Relationship in Nature; so when it is used of us and Him, the interval is great, because of the great and infinite interval between the respective natures. For if He "did no sin, neither was guile found in His mouth," how could the Apostles be reckoned equal to Him? What is it then that He saith, "They are not of the world"? "They look to another world, they have nothing common with earth, but are become citizens of heaven." And by these words He showeth His love, when He commendeth them to the Father, and committeth them to Him who begat Him. When He saith, "Keep them," He doth not speak merely of delivering them from dangers, but also with regard to their continuance in the faith.

A commentator

Caesarius of Arles

SERMON 151.2 · Written before 542.

proposed

There are two cities, dearest brothers.… The first is the city of this world, the second, the city of paradise. The first city is full of labor, the second is restful. The first is full of misery, the second is blessed. If a person lives …
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The Medieval Church4 voices

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Theophylact of Ohrid

Commentary on John · Written before 1107.

proposed

Again He repeats "they are not of the world." "They," He says, "are in need of strong support, for they, having become citizens of heaven, have nothing in common with the earth. And since the whole world will treat them as strangers, do Thou, the …

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Bonaventure

Commentary on John, Chapter 17 · Written in the 13th century.

proposed

They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world, namely in conduct; therefore he was asking that they be saved and preserved, lest they be turned back to the world through love; concerning which preservation, Apocalypse 3: "Because you have …

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Thomas Aquinas

Commentary on John · Written before 1274.

proposed

He gives the reason for this request when he says, they are not of the world. This seems to be a useless repetition since he had just said the same thing. But, indeed, it is not useless, because they are spoken in different contexts. They …

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John of Dalyatha

LETTER 5.1 · Written before 780.

proposed

Do you want Christ to appear to you in prayer as he would to his friend? Let love for him be within you without a moment's break. Do you want this love to be continually inflamed in your soul? Then remove from your soul love …

The Puritans and the Awakening1 voice

They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. These words are repeated from Joh 17:14, where they are given as a reason of the world's hatred to them; and here, as showing that they are exposed to the evil of it; and in both are used as an argument with his Father, that he would take notice of them, and preserve them.

The Nineteenth Century5 voices

A commentator

Jamieson, Fausset & Brown

1802–1910

Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871)

proposed

They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world--(See Joh 15:18, 19). This is reiterated here, to pave the way for the prayer which follows.
These verses, like every part of this wonderful chapter, contain some deep things which are "hard to be understood." But there are two plain points standing out on the face of the passage which deserve the special attention of all true Christians. Passing by all other points, let us fix our attention on these two. We learn, for one thing, that the Lord Jesus does things for His believing people which He does not do for the wicked and unbelieving. He helps their souls by special intercession.
These verses, like every part of this wonderful chapter, contain some deep things which are "hard to be understood." But there are two plain points standing out on the face of the passage which deserve the special attention of all true Christians. Passing by all other points, let us fix our attention on these two. We learn, for one thing, that the Lord Jesus does things for His believing people which He does not do for the wicked and unbelieving. He helps their souls by special intercession. He says, "I pray for them—I pray not for the world, but for those who You have given Me." The doctrine before us is one which is specially hated by the world. Nothing gives such offence, and stirs up such bitter feeling among the wicked, as the idea of God making any distinction between man and man, and loving one person more than another. Yet the world's objections to the doctrine are, as usual, weak and unreasonable. Surely a little reflection might show us that a God who regarded good and bad, holy and unholy, righteous and unrighteous, with equal complacency and favor, would be a very strange kind of God! The special intercession of Christ for His saints is agreeable to reason and to common sense. Of course, like every other Gospel truth, the doctrine before us needs careful statement and Scriptural guarding. On the one hand, we must not narrow the love of Christ to sinners; and on the other we must not make it too broad. It is true that Christ loves all sinners, and invites all to be saved; but it is also true that He specially loves the "blessed company of all faithful people," whom He sanctifies and glorifies. It is true that He has wrought out a redemption sufficient for all mankind, and offers it freely to all; but it is also true that His redemption is effectual only to those who believe.
CHRIST’S prayer was for a special people. He declared that he did not offer an universal intercession. “I pray for them,” said he. “I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me, for they are thine.” In reading this beautiful prayer through, only one question arises to our minds; Who are the people that are described as “them,” or as “they?”
CHRIST’S prayer was for a special people. He declared that he did not offer an universal intercession. “I pray for them,” said he. “I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me, for they are thine.” In reading this beautiful prayer through, only one question arises to our minds; Who are the people that are described as “them,” or as “they?” Who are these favoured individuals, who share a Saviour’s prayers, are recognized by a Saviour’s love, have their names written on the stones of his precious breastplate, and have their characters and their circumstances mentioned by the lips of the High Priest before the throne on high? The answer to that question is supplied by the words of our text. The people for whom Christ prays are an unearthly people. They are a people somewhat, above the world, distinguished altogether from it. “They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.” I shall treat my text, first of all, doctrinally; secondly, experimentally; and thirdly, practically. I. First, we shall take our text and look at it DOCTRINALLY. The doctrine of it is, that God’s people are people who are not of the world, even as Christ was not of the world. It is not so much that they are not of the world, as that they are “not of the world, even as Christ was not of the world.” This is an important distinction, for there are to be found certain people who are not of the world, and yet they are not Christians. Amongst these I would mention sentimentalists—people who are always crying and groaning in affected sentimental ways. Their spirits are so refined, their characters are so delicate, that they could not attend to ordinary business. They would think it rather degrading to their spiritual nature to attend to anything connected with the world.

The words behind it

12 Greek words

Every Greek word of this verse in the order it stands, with what it means and the door to its own study. The last column counts the times a word stands in the whole Bible: the rarer the word, the more the places it appears belong together.

A shaded row is a word that stands 400 times or fewer in the Bible.

The walk

5 stops

Each card is a verse this one points to, and under it the verses that one points to in turn. Where several paths arrive at the same place, that place is listed first: the text keeps returning to it.

  • Through

    John 17:14

    I have given them Your word and the world has hated them; for they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.

    it leads to

    • John 15:18–21

      If the world hates you, understand that it hated Me first.

    • 1 John 5:19–20

      We know that we are of God, and that the whole world is under the power of the evil one.

    • John 8:23

      Then He told them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.

    • 1 John 4:5–6

      They are of the world. That is why they speak from the world’s perspective, and the world listens to them.

    • John 7:7

      The world cannot hate you, but it hates Me, because I testify that its works are evil.

Where this verse is studied

About John

Nicodemus Visiting Jesus, Henry Ossawa Tanner, 1899. Public domain.
Nicodemus Visiting Jesus, Henry Ossawa Tanner, 1899. Public domain.
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This page draws on Augustine of Hippo, Tractates on John 108; Augustine of Hippo, Catena Aurea by Aquinas; Bonaventure, Commentary on John, Chapter 17; Caesarius of Arles, SERMON 151.2; Charles Spurgeon, The New Park Street Pulpit, Sermon No. 78: “The Character of Christ's People” (lightly modernized text, CCEL edition); Cyril of Alexandria, Commentary on the Gospel of John - Book 11; J. C. Ryle, Expository Thoughts on the Gospels, John; J.C. Ryle, Expository Thoughts on the Gospels: John (lightly modernized text, Grace Gems edition); Jamieson, Fausset & Brown, Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible; John Calvin, Commentary on the Gospel according to John; John Cassian, CONFERENCE 1.7.2, 4-5; John Chrysostom, Homily on the Gospel of John 82; John Gill, Exposition of the New Testament (1746-1748); John of Dalyatha, LETTER 5.1; Theophylact of Ohrid, Commentary on John and Thomas Aquinas, Commentary on John.