2 Samuel 3:17
in 2 Samuel 3Now Abner conferred with the elders of Israel and said, “In the past you sought David as your king.
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ASV
And Abner had communication with the elders of Israel, saying, In times past ye sought for David to be king over you:
KJV
And Abner had communication with the elders of Israel, saying, Ye sought for David in times past to be king over you:
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This verse in 2 Samuel 3
Commentary
6 notes on this verseA commentator
Albert Barnes1798–1870
Notes, Explanatory and Practical, on the Old and New Testaments (1832-1869)
Ye sought for David ... - Compare 1Sa 18:5. It was only by Abner’s great influence that the elders of Israel had been restrained hitherto from declaring for David, and this accounts for Ish-bosheth’s helpless submission to his uncle’s dictation.
This site's exposition
Ye sought for David in times past
on 2 Samuel 3:17-19
Abner works two audiences before he ever reaches Hebron, the elders of Israel and the house of Benjamin, Saul's own tribe, and his argument to both is the word already spoken of David, by the hand of my servant David I will save my people Israel. Barnes reads Abner's influence as the very thing that had kept the elders from declaring for David until now, so his defection removes the last obstacle at a stroke. Spurgeon preached the phrase now then do it as a call to present obedience: light once given leaves no room for delay.
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The Puritans and the Awakening1 voice
And Abner had communication with the elders of Israel,....
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A commentator
Jamieson, Fausset & Brown1802–1910
Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871)
Abner had communication with the elders of Israel--He spoke the truth in impressing their minds with the well-known fact of David's divine designation to the kingdom. But he acted a base and hypocritical part in pretending that his present movement was prompted by religious motives, when it sprang entirely from malice and revenge against Ish-bosheth.
You know the circumstances under which these words were spoken. God had cast off Saul because he had not been faithful and He had appointed David to be his successor, anointing him by the hand of Samuel. Yet when Saul was slain in battle, Israel seemed determined to choose her own king by selecting one of Saul's family—and under the leadership of Abner, the majority of the tribes set up Ishbosheth, son of Jonathan, to be king.
You know the circumstances under which these words were spoken. God had cast off Saul because he had not been faithful and He had appointed David to be his successor, anointing him by the hand of Samuel. Yet when Saul was slain in battle, Israel seemed determined to choose her own king by selecting one of Saul's family—and under the leadership of Abner, the majority of the tribes set up Ishbosheth, son of Jonathan, to be king. Then commenced a civil war between the two parties and we read that the house of David waxed stronger and stronger, but the house of Saul grew weaker and weaker. In process of time Abner, the commander-in-chief and prime minister who was at the head of Saul's party, because it served his own purposes, changed his mind and resolved that David should become king over the whole land. Having so resolved, he began to persuade the tribes and argue with them on David's behalf. And the words of my text are a part of a very powerful argument which he used in order to induce them to give up the king of their own choosing and offer the crown to the king whom God had appointed, even David. I need say but very little, however, about the circumstances of the case, for I am about to accommodate the words to quite another people and another king. I desire, in all sincerity of heart, to approach those of you whose minds are ruled by evil desires and motives, all of which are alien sovereigns, hostile to the true King whom God has anointed—and to remind you, this morning, that you have, in times past, sought to have Jesus to be King over you. Perhaps you have some desires towards Him lingering in your heart even now and, therefore, I have hope of you that you will go further, and in all sincerity, submit yourselves to His dominion. It is time that you should go beyond mere desires and attain to something practical.
How the passage was read
What the Jewish commentators add
And the word of Avner was [sent] Before this [incident with Paltiel]
1 more on this passage, in their own words ▾
Following and crying. Over the good deed [about to be] leaving him because all those years he thrust a sword into the bed [separating] between him and her and he did not stumble [into sinful intimacy] with her.
This section is reception history: how the passage was read and kept in the Jewish tradition. Where a reading parts from an essential of the Christian faith, the section says so at that point.
Texts and citation data: Sefaria; each excerpt follows its version’s licence. 4 further sources are cited on this chapter that carry no English text this site may quote or only restate the verse.
The words behind it
17 Hebrew wordsEvery Hebrew word of this verse in the order it stands, with what it means and the door to its own study. The last column counts the times a word stands in the whole Bible: the rarer the word, the more the places it appears belong together.
| Hebrew | Sound | Meaning | Word study | In the Bible |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| וּדְבַר־ | udevar- | and [the] word of | H1697 → | 1440 times |
| אַבְנֵ֣ר | ʾavner | Abner | H74 → | 63 times |
| הָיָ֔ה | hayah | it was | H1961 → | 3559 times |
| עִם־ | ʾim- | with | H5973 → | 1050 times |
| זִקְנֵ֥י | ziknei | [the] elders of | H2205 → | 178 times |
| יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל | yisrael | Israel | H3478 → | 2507 times |
| לֵאמֹ֑ר | lemor | <to> saying | H559 → | 5305 times |
| גַּם־ | gam- | both | H1571 → | 769 times |
| תְּמוֹל֙ | temol | yesterday | H8543 → | |
| גַּם־ | gam- | as well as | H1571 → | 769 times |
| שִׁלְשֹׁ֔ם | shilshom | [the] third day | H8032 → | |
| הֱיִיתֶ֞ם | heyitem | you were | H1961 → | 3559 times |
| מְבַקְשִׁ֧ים | mevakshim | seeking | H1245 → | 225 times |
| אֶת־ | ʾet- | <obj.> | H853 → | 10935 times |
| דָּוִ֛ד | david | David | H1732 → | 999 times |
| לְמֶ֖לֶךְ | lemelekh | to king | H4428 → | 2525 times |
| עֲלֵיכֶֽם׃ | ʾaleikhem | over you | H5921 → | 5755 times |
וּדְבַר־and [the] word of
udevar-H1697 →1440 times
אַבְנֵ֣רAbner
ʾavnerH74 →63 times
הָיָ֔הit was
hayahH1961 →3559 times
עִם־with
ʾim-H5973 →1050 times
זִקְנֵ֥י[the] elders of
zikneiH2205 →178 times
יִשְׂרָאֵ֖לIsrael
yisraelH3478 →2507 times
לֵאמֹ֑ר<to> saying
lemorH559 →5305 times
גַּם־both
gam-H1571 →769 times
תְּמוֹל֙yesterday
temolH8543 →
גַּם־as well as
gam-H1571 →769 times
שִׁלְשֹׁ֔ם[the] third day
shilshomH8032 →
הֱיִיתֶ֞םyou were
heyitemH1961 →3559 times
מְבַקְשִׁ֧יםseeking
mevakshimH1245 →225 times
אֶת־<obj.>
ʾet-H853 →10935 times
דָּוִ֛דDavid
davidH1732 →999 times
לְמֶ֖לֶךְto king
lemelekhH4428 →2525 times
עֲלֵיכֶֽם׃over you
ʾaleikhemH5921 →5755 times
A shaded row is a word that stands 400 times or fewer in the Bible.
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This page draws on Albert Barnes, Notes, Explanatory and Practical, on the Old and New Testaments (1832-1869); Albert Barnes, Notes on the Old Testament; Charles Spurgeon, The Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, Sermon No. 1375, Now Then Do It; Charles Spurgeon, The Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, Sermon No. 1375: “"Now Then, Do It"” (lightly modernized text, CCEL edition); Jamieson, Fausset & Brown, Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible and John Gill, Exposition of the Old Testament (1748-1763).
