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2 Samuel 3:17

in 2 Samuel 3

Now Abner conferred with the elders of Israel and said, “In the past you sought David as your king.

BSB

The same verse in ASV and KJV

ASV

And Abner had communication with the elders of Israel, saying, In times past ye sought for David to be king over you:

KJV

And Abner had communication with the elders of Israel, saying, Ye sought for David in times past to be king over you:

This verse in 2 Samuel 3

Commentary

6 notes on this verse
Ye sought for David ... - Compare 1Sa 18:5. It was only by Abner’s great influence that the elders of Israel had been restrained hitherto from declaring for David, and this accounts for Ish-bosheth’s helpless submission to his uncle’s dictation.

This site's exposition

Ye sought for David in times past

on 2 Samuel 3:17-19

Abner works two audiences before he ever reaches Hebron, the elders of Israel and the house of Benjamin, Saul's own tribe, and his argument to both is the word already spoken of David, by the hand of my servant David I will save my people Israel. Barnes reads Abner's influence as the very thing that had kept the elders from declaring for David until now, so his defection removes the last obstacle at a stroke. Spurgeon preached the phrase now then do it as a call to present obedience: light once given leaves no room for delay.

The record, by era

The Puritans and the Awakening1 voice

And Abner had communication with the elders of Israel,....

The Nineteenth Century3 voices

A commentator

Jamieson, Fausset & Brown

1802–1910

Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871)

Abner had communication with the elders of Israel--He spoke the truth in impressing their minds with the well-known fact of David's divine designation to the kingdom. But he acted a base and hypocritical part in pretending that his present movement was prompted by religious motives, when it sprang entirely from malice and revenge against Ish-bosheth.
You know the circumstances under which these words were spoken. God had cast off Saul because he had not been faithful and He had appointed David to be his successor, anointing him by the hand of Samuel. Yet when Saul was slain in battle, Israel seemed determined to choose her own king by selecting one of Saul's family—and under the leadership of Abner, the majority of the tribes set up Ishbosheth, son of Jonathan, to be king.
You know the circumstances under which these words were spoken. God had cast off Saul because he had not been faithful and He had appointed David to be his successor, anointing him by the hand of Samuel. Yet when Saul was slain in battle, Israel seemed determined to choose her own king by selecting one of Saul's family—and under the leadership of Abner, the majority of the tribes set up Ishbosheth, son of Jonathan, to be king. Then commenced a civil war between the two parties and we read that the house of David waxed stronger and stronger, but the house of Saul grew weaker and weaker. In process of time Abner, the commander-in-chief and prime minister who was at the head of Saul's party, because it served his own purposes, changed his mind and resolved that David should become king over the whole land. Having so resolved, he began to persuade the tribes and argue with them on David's behalf. And the words of my text are a part of a very powerful argument which he used in order to induce them to give up the king of their own choosing and offer the crown to the king whom God had appointed, even David. I need say but very little, however, about the circumstances of the case, for I am about to accommodate the words to quite another people and another king. I desire, in all sincerity of heart, to approach those of you whose minds are ruled by evil desires and motives, all of which are alien sovereigns, hostile to the true King whom God has anointed—and to remind you, this morning, that you have, in times past, sought to have Jesus to be King over you. Perhaps you have some desires towards Him lingering in your heart even now and, therefore, I have hope of you that you will go further, and in all sincerity, submit yourselves to His dominion. It is time that you should go beyond mere desires and attain to something practical.

How the passage was read

What the Jewish commentators add

And the word of Avner was [sent] Before this [incident with Paltiel]
Rashi: France, 1040–1105 · Rashi on II Samuel 3:17:1, via Sefaria, The Metsudah Tanach series, Lakewood, N.J
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Following and crying. Over the good deed [about to be] leaving him because all those years he thrust a sword into the bed [separating] between him and her and he did not stumble [into sinful intimacy] with her.
Rashi: France, 1040–1105 · Rashi on II Samuel 3:16:1, via Sefaria, The Metsudah Tanach series, Lakewood, N.J

This section is reception history: how the passage was read and kept in the Jewish tradition. Where a reading parts from an essential of the Christian faith, the section says so at that point.

Texts and citation data: Sefaria; each excerpt follows its version’s licence. 4 further sources are cited on this chapter that carry no English text this site may quote or only restate the verse.

The words behind it

17 Hebrew words

Every Hebrew word of this verse in the order it stands, with what it means and the door to its own study. The last column counts the times a word stands in the whole Bible: the rarer the word, the more the places it appears belong together.

  • וּדְבַר־and [the] word of

    udevar-H16971440 times

  • אַבְנֵ֣רAbner

    ʾavnerH7463 times

  • הָיָ֔הit was

    hayahH19613559 times

  • עִם־with

    ʾim-H59731050 times

  • זִקְנֵ֥י[the] elders of

    zikneiH2205178 times

  • יִשְׂרָאֵ֖לIsrael

    yisraelH34782507 times

  • לֵאמֹ֑ר<to> saying

    lemorH5595305 times

  • גַּם־both

    gam-H1571769 times

  • תְּמוֹל֙yesterday

    temolH8543

  • גַּם־as well as

    gam-H1571769 times

  • שִׁלְשֹׁ֔ם[the] third day

    shilshomH8032

  • הֱיִיתֶ֞םyou were

    heyitemH19613559 times

  • מְבַקְשִׁ֧יםseeking

    mevakshimH1245225 times

  • אֶת־<obj.>

    ʾet-H85310935 times

  • דָּוִ֛דDavid

    davidH1732999 times

  • לְמֶ֖לֶךְto king

    lemelekhH44282525 times

  • עֲלֵיכֶֽם׃over you

    ʾaleikhemH59215755 times

A shaded row is a word that stands 400 times or fewer in the Bible.

Where this verse is studied

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About 2 Samuel

David Mourns the Death of Absalom, Gustave Doré, 1866. Public domain.
David Mourns the Death of Absalom, Gustave Doré, 1866. Public domain.

This page draws on Albert Barnes, Notes, Explanatory and Practical, on the Old and New Testaments (1832-1869); Albert Barnes, Notes on the Old Testament; Charles Spurgeon, The Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, Sermon No. 1375, Now Then Do It; Charles Spurgeon, The Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, Sermon No. 1375: “"Now Then, Do It"” (lightly modernized text, CCEL edition); Jamieson, Fausset & Brown, Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible and John Gill, Exposition of the Old Testament (1748-1763).