Hebrews 5:8
in Hebrews 5Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from what He suffered.
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though he was a Son, yet learned obedience by the things which he suffered;
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Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
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Commentary
23 notes on this verseIt was not while bare and not participating in the limits of his emptying that God the Word became our model, but "in the days of his flesh." Then, quite legitimately, he could employ human limits and pray insistently and shed tears and even appear somehow to need a savior and learn obedience, though a Son. The inspired author is, so to speak, stupefied by the mystery that the Son, existing by nature truly and endowed with the glories of divinity, should so abase himself that he endured the low estate of our impoverished humanity.
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learned obedience from what He suffered
on Hebrews 5:8-9
Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from what He suffered, knowledge gained by the experience of trial. The Greek behind having been made perfect is teleiotheis, and so perfected he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey Him. His obedience is answered by theirs.
The record, by era
The Church Fathers5 voices
Who in the days of his flesh, he offered up prayers and supplications with loud cries and tears to the one who was able to save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Although he was a Son, he learned …
"Although he was a Son, he learned obedience through what he suffered." Therefore, he says, He was so obedient (and He obeyed as is fitting for a Son to the Father) that after He was incarnate, He even endured the cross to death. "And He …
A commentator
Ephrem the SyrianCOMMENTARY ON THE EPISTLE TO THE HEBREWS · Written before 373.
proposed
Jesus' prayers were granted, but how were his prayers granted if he had demanded to be delivered from death? To be sure, he was not saved. He wanted to fulfill in himself the will of the Father. And for this reason it was evident that …
And this species of the divine patience indeed being, as it were, at a distance, may perhaps be esteemed as among "things too high for us; " but what is that which, in a certain way, has been grasped by hand among men openly on the earth?
A commentator
Gregory of NazianzusON THE SON, THEOLOGICAL ORATION 4(30).6 · Written before 390.
proposed
Connected with this general view are the facts that he "learned obedience through what he suffered," his "loud cries and tears," the fact that he "offered up prayers," that he "was heard" and he was "God-fearing." These things are marvelously constructed drama dealing with us. As Word, he was neither obedient nor disobedient—the terms apply to amenable subordinates or inferiors who deserve punishment. But as the "form of a servant" he comes down to the same level as his fellow servants; receiving an alien "form," he bears the whole of me, along with all that is mine, in himself, so that he may consume within himself the meaner element, as fire consumes wax or the sun ground mist, and so that I may share in what is his through the intermingling.
16 more voices on this verse
The Church Fathers2 voices
"He learned obedience by the things which He suffered." What obedience? He that before this had been obedient even unto death, as a Son to His Father, how did He afterwards learn? Seest thou that this is spoken concerning the Incarnation? ..."He learned," he saith, to obey God. Here again he shows how great is the gain of sufferings. "And having been made perfect," he says, "He became the Author of salvation to them that obey Him." But if He, being the Son, gained obedience from His sufferings, much more shall we. Dost thou see how many things he discourses about obedience, that they might be persuaded to it? For it seems to me that they would not be restrained. "From the things," he says, "which He suffered He" continually "learned" to obey God. And being "made perfect" through sufferings. This then is perfection, and by this means must we arrive at perfection. For not only was He Himself saved, but became to others also an abundant supply of salvation. For "being made perfect He became the Author of salvation to them that obey Him."
For he gave voice to a strong cry and supplication when he became like us; and he was heard because he did not disobey, since by nature he was truly Son.
The Medieval Church4 voices
He became accustomed, he says, to obeying God the Father, having learned this through sufferings. What is said here seems simply incredible. For how did He learn obedience through sufferings, He Who before His sufferings was so obedient to the Father that He accepted the …
In Christ there was the fullness of all wisdom not only with respect to things known, but also with regard to the modes and differences of knowing. For in Christ there was sempiternal cognition on the part of the Deity, sensible cognition on the part …
A commentator
Photios I of ConstantinopleFRAGMENTS ON THE EPISTLE TO THE HEBREWS 5.7-9 · Written before 893.
proposed
Now as far as the phrase "although being a Son" is concerned, if someone should understand it as a transposition—and such a trope is uncustomary for the excellent apostle—the natural reading of the passage would be something like this: "Who in the days of his …
258. – Having listed three things which pertain to a high priest and showed that two of them were verified, namely, the office and the proper way of attaining it, the Apostle now considers the third thing which a high priest should have, namely, mercy …
The Puritans and the Awakening3 voices
Though he were a Son - This is interposed. lest any should be offended at all these instances of human weakness. In the garden, how frequently did he call God his Father! And hence it most evidently appears that his being the Son of God did not arise merely from his resurrection.
Here observe, [1.] The privilege of Christ: He was a Son; the only-begotten of the Father. One would have thought this might have exempted him from suffering, but it did not. Let none then who are the children of God by adoption expect an absolute freedom from suffering.
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The Nineteenth Century7 voices
A commentator
Albert Barnes1798–1870
Notes, Explanatory and Practical, on the Old and New Testaments (1832-1869)
Though he were a Son - Though the Son of God. Though he sustained this exalted rank, and was conscious of it, yet he was willing to learn experimentally what is meant by obedience in the midst of sufferings. Yet learned he obedience - That is, he learned experimentally and practically.
A commentator
Jamieson, Fausset & Brown1802–1910
Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871)
He was obedient already before His passion, but He stooped to a still more humiliating and trying form of obedience then. The Greek adage is, "Pathemata mathemata," "sufferings, disciplinings." Praying and obeying, as in Christ's case, ought to go hand in hand.
THE Holy Spirit, in this chapter, reminds us that two things were necessary in a High Priest. First, he must be suitable for the men for whom he stood and next, he must be acceptable with God. "Every High Priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God." He must be fit from both points of view, both man-ward and God-ward. Our Lord Jesus Christ was ordained of God from of old and did not, of Himself, assume the position of High Priest. The Prophets spoke of Him as the Messiah of God and Jehovah, Himself, declared, "You are a Priest forever after the order of Melchisedec." When He came into the world, the Holy Spirit bore witness to His being the Son of the Highest. At His Baptism there came a Voice from Heaven saying, "You are My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased," and that same Voice was thrice heard declaring the same fact. The Father has given further testimony to the mission of Christ, "in that He has raised Him from the dead," and has caused Him to enter into the heavenly places on our behalf. Moreover, He has given Him a pledge that as Melchisedec, being both King and Priest, He shall sit at His right hand until He has made His enemies His footstool. Our Lord Jesus has been chosen, ordained and glorified as our "Great High Priest, that has passed into the heavens." This is the groundwork of our comfort in our Lord Jesus, for we know that He is One with the Father and that all things are done by Him as the Messenger of the Covenant, the authorized Representative of Jehovah our God. That is not the point to which I call your attention this morning—I would have you follow the text and consider the pre-eminent suitability of our Lord Jesus to be a High Priest for us, viewed from the human side.
A commentator
Charles Spurgeon1834–1892
The Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, Sermon No. 2722: “The Education of Sons of God” (lightly modernized text, CCEL edition) · Written before 1892.
proposed
WERE you ever in a new trouble, one which was so strange that you felt that a similar trial had never happened to you and, moreover, you dreamt that such a temptation had never assailed anybody else? I should not wonder if that was the thought of your troubled heart. And did you ever walk out upon that lonely desert island upon which you were wrecked and say, "I am alone—alone—ALONE—nobody was ever here before me"? And did you suddenly pull up short as you noticed, in the sand, the footprints of a man? I remember right well passing through that experience—and when I looked, lo, it was not merely the footprints of a man that I saw, but I thought I knew whose feet had left those imprints. They were the marks of One who had been crucified, for there was the print of the nails. So I thought to myself, "If He has been here, it is no longer a desert island. As His blessed feet once trod this wilderness-way, it blossoms now like the rose and it becomes to my troubled spirit as a very garden of the Lord!" My objective, in this discourse, will be to try to point out the footprints of Jesus in the sands of sorrow so that others of the children of God may have their hearts lifted up within them while they observe that "though He were a Son, yet learned He," as well as the rest of us who are in the Lord's family, "obedience by the things which He suffered." I. I ask your attention, first of all, to that which, I doubt not, you would have observed in the text without any help from me, namely, that OUR REDEEMER'S SONSHIP DID NOT EXEMPT HIM FROM SUFFERING. "Though He were a Son." It is put as if this might have been a case where the rod of the household could have been spared.
A commentator
Charles Spurgeon1834–1892
The Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, Sermon No. 2722: “The Education of Sons of God” (lightly modernized text, CCEL edition) · Written before 1892.
proposed
WERE you ever in a new trouble, one which was so strange that you felt that a similar trial had never happened to you and, moreover, you dreamt that such a temptation had never assailed anybody else? I should not wonder if that was the thought of your troubled heart. And did you ever walk out upon that lonely desert island upon which you were wrecked and say, "I am alone—alone—ALONE—nobody was ever here before me"? And did you suddenly pull up short as you noticed, in the sand, the footprints of a man?
THE Holy Spirit, in this chapter, reminds us that two things were necessary in a High Priest. First, he must be suitable for the men for whom he stood and next, he must be acceptable with God. "Every High Priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God." He must be fit from both points of view, both man-ward and God-ward. Our Lord Jesus Christ was ordained of God from of old and did not, of Himself, assume the position of High Priest.
Though he were a Son - See the whole of the preceding note.
The words behind it
9 Greek wordsEvery Greek word of this verse in the order it stands, with what it means and the door to its own study. The last column counts the times a word stands in the whole Bible: the rarer the word, the more the places it appears belong together.
| Greek | Sound | Meaning | Word study | In the Bible |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| καίπερ | kaiper | though | G2539 → | 5 times |
| ὢν | on | being | G1510 → | 2333 times |
| υἱός, | huios | a Son, | G5207 → | 377 times |
| ἔμαθεν | emathen | He learned | G3129 → | |
| ἀφ᾽ | aph᾽ | from | G575 → | 640 times |
| ὧν | hon | [the] things | G3739 → | 1405 times |
| ἔπαθεν | epathen | He suffered | G3958 → | 42 times |
| τὴν | ten | <the> | G3588 → | 19766 times |
| ὑπακοήν, | hupakoen | obedience, | G5218 → |
καίπερthough
kaiperG2539 →5 times
ὢνbeing
onG1510 →2333 times
υἱός,a Son,
huiosG5207 →377 times
ἔμαθενHe learned
emathenG3129 →
ἀφ᾽from
aph᾽G575 →640 times
ὧν[the] things
honG3739 →1405 times
ἔπαθενHe suffered
epathenG3958 →42 times
τὴν<the>
tenG3588 →19766 times
ὑπακοήν,obedience,
hupakoenG5218 →
A shaded row is a word that stands 400 times or fewer in the Bible.
The walk
8 stopsEach card is a verse this one points to, and under it the verses that one points to in turn. Where several paths arrive at the same place, that place is listed first: the text keeps returning to it.
Through
John 15:10If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and remain in His love.
it leads to
- John 14:15
If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
- 1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome,
- 1 John 3:21–24
Beloved, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God,
- John 14:15
Through
Philippians 2:8And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to death—even death on a cross.
it leads to
- John 10:18
No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This charge I have received…
- Hebrews 12:2
Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand…
- John 10:18
Through
John 4:34Jesus explained, “My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me and to finish His work.
it leads to
- John 6:38
For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me.
- John 5:30
I can do nothing by Myself; I judge only as I hear. And My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
- Job 23:12
I have not departed from the command of His lips; I have treasured the words of His mouth more than my daily bread.
- John 6:38
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This page draws on Adam Clarke, Commentary on the Bible; Albert Barnes, Notes, Explanatory and Practical, on the Old and New Testaments (1832-1869); Bonaventure, Breviloquium; Charles Spurgeon, The Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, Sermon No. 1927: “Our Sympathizing High Priest” (lightly modernized text, CCEL edition); Charles Spurgeon, The Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, Sermon No. 2722: “The Education of Sons of God” (lightly modernized text, CCEL edition); Cyril of Alexandria, ON THE UNITY OF CHRIST 755; Cyril of Alexandria, LETTER TO PULCHERIA AND EUDOXIA; Ephrem the Syrian, COMMENTARY ON THE EPISTLE TO THE HEBREWS; Gregory of Nazianzus, ON THE SON, THEOLOGICAL ORATION 4(30).6; Jamieson, Fausset & Brown, Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible; John Chrysostom, Homily on Hebrews 8; John Gill, Exposition of the New Testament; John Gill, Exposition of the New Testament (1746-1748); John Owen, An Exposition of the Epistle to the Hebrews; John Wesley, Explanatory Notes upon the New Testament; Matthew Henry, Commentary on the Whole Bible; Oecumenius, The Pseudo-Oecumenian Catena on Hebrews; Photios I of Constantinople, FRAGMENTS ON THE EPISTLE TO THE HEBREWS 5.7-9; Tertullian, Of Patience; Theophylact of Ohrid, Commentary on Hebrews and Thomas Aquinas, Commentary on Hebrews.
