Ecclesiasteschapter 8
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A.Who Is as the Wise Man? Keep the King's Commandvv. 1-9
Ecclesiastes 8:1
the interpretation of a thing?: Who is as the wise man, and who knoweth the interpretation of a thing sets up the chapter's subject before the court counsel begins: practical wisdom that reads a situation and knows when to act. The wise man's face shining and its boldness changed pictures the visible effect of wisdom on a man's whole bearing, as Gill and Henry both note the physical language for wisdom's inward light. The verse stands as the chapter's heading, promising a wisdom that will be tested against kings and against the unequal dealings of providence.
Ecclesiastes 8:1, 3 voicesWhat preachers and commentators have said about these verses, in their own words.
Ecclesiastes 8:1
"Who is like the wise man? And who knows what things mean? A man's wisdom lights up his face, and the boldness of his face is transformed. "He had taught above that it is hard to find a good man, and he had answered the question to the contrary, saying that men are made good by God, but that they fall into sin because of their own free will.
Jerome· written before 420· Commentary on Ecclesiastespatristic
Ecclesiastes 8:1
“Who is as the wise man?.... Who is as the first man, that was made upright, and was a wise man? not one of his sons. Or who is as the wise man, meaning himself? no man; he was the wisest of men; and yet he could not find out wisdom, and the reason of things, and the wickedness of folly, Ecc 7:25; how therefore should any other man? what can the man do that comes after the king?”
Ecclesiastes 8:1
“And who - Rather, and as he who knoweth. The possessor of wisdom excels other people: it imparts serenity to his countenance, and removes the expression of gloom or fierceness (see the marginal reference).”
Ecclesiastes 8:2-5
keep the king’s commandment: I counsel thee to keep the king's commandment assumes an absolute monarch whose word is power, and none may say unto him, what doest thou. Standing not in an evil thing and not being hasty to leave his presence is court prudence rather than a rule for private conscience, as Clarke and Bridges both read the passage. The wise man's heart discerns both time and judgment, so the counsel closes on timing itself, knowing when obedience is due and when the moment calls for something else.
Ecclesiastes 8:2, 2 voices
Ecclesiastes 8:2
“To keep the king’s commandment - This sentence would be better translated, I keep the mouth of the king; I take good heed not to meddle with state secrets; and if I know, to hide them. Or, I am obedient to the commands of the laws; I feel myself bound by whatever the king has decreed. In regard of the oath of God - You have sworn obedience to him; keep your oath, for the engagement was made in the presence of God. It appears that the Jewish princes and chiefs took an oath of fidelity to their kings.”
Adam Clarke· Commentary on the Bible (1810-1826)evangelical
Ecclesiastes 8:2
“David made a covenant, or contract, with the elders of Israel, though he was king by divine designation, 1 Chron. xi. 3 . " Keep the king's commandments, for he has sworn to rule thee in the fear of God, and thou hast sworn, in that fear, to be faithful to him." It is called the oath of God because he is a witness to it and will avenge the violation of it.”
Matthew Henry· Commentary on the Whole Bible (1707-1721)puritan
Ecclesiastes 8:3, 2 voices
Ecclesiastes 8:3
“Be not hasty to go out of his sight,.... But of the sight of the King of kings.”
Ecclesiastes 8:3
“Be not hasty - I consider the first five verses here as directions to courtiers, and the more immediate servants of kings. Be steadily faithful to your sovereign. Do not stand in an evil thing. If you have done wrong, do not endeavor to vindicate yourself before him; it is of no use; his power is absolute, and he will do what he pleases. He will take his own view of the subject, and he will retain it. The language of a despotic sovereign was ever this, Sic volo sic jubeo, stat pro ratione voluntas; “I will this.”
Adam Clarke· Commentary on the Bible (1810-1826)evangelical
Ecclesiastes 8:4, 3 voices
Ecclesiastes 8:4
“He also acts easily; therefore he says: And His word is full of power, the Psalm: "The voice of the Lord in power, the voice of the Lord breaking the cedars": and Jeremiah 32: "No word shall be difficult for You, who show mercy unto …”
Bonaventure· written before 1257· Commentary on Ecclesiastes, Chapter 8patristic
Ecclesiastes 8:4
“Where the word of a king is, there is power,.... Or "dominion" (z). Authority goes along with his word of command; and there is an inferior magistracy, a subordinate power under him, ready to execute his will upon the rebellious and disobedient.”
Ecclesiastes 8:4
AT THE OPENING OF A NEW BAPTIST CHAPEL, TRINITY ROAD, UPPER TOOTING. "Where the word of a king is, there is power." Ecclesiastes 8:4. KINGS in Solomon's day had a vast amount of power, for their word was absolute. They did according to their own will and none could check them, for, as Solomon said, "the king's wrath is as the roaring of a lion: whoever provokes him to anger sins against his own soul."
Charles Spurgeon· The Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, Sermon No. 1697: “The Word of a King” (lightly modernized text, CCEL edition) (1882)Particular (Reformed) Baptist / Five-point Calvinist / 1689 LBCF / 19th-c. evangelical
Ecclesiastes 8:5, 2 voices
Ecclesiastes 8:5
“And you find in another passage, "For he that keeps the commandment does not know the wicked word" when it is altogether clear that knowledge of wickedness is not culpable, but association with it is.”
Ambrose of Milan· written before 397· Interrogation of Job and David 2.7.27patristic
Ecclesiastes 8:5
“Feel - literally, know. The meaning is, “He who obeys the commandment (i. e., the word of the king, Ecc 8:4), will not be an accomplice in any act of rebellion; and if he be a wise man he discerns (literally knows) that the king’s commandment or action is liable to correction, if it be wrong, in God’s time and by God’s judgment.” Compare Ecc 3:11, Ecc 3:17.”
Ecclesiastes 8:6-7
the misery of man is great upon him: To every purpose there is time and judgment repeats the theme of chapter three inside the court setting, and it is exactly this unknown timing that makes the misery of man great upon him. No one can tell him what shall be or when, so the wise man's discernment in verse five meets its limit here: he can read a situation but not the future itself. Gill and Henry both take verse seven as the root of much human anxiety, action taken without certainty of outcome or hour.
Ecclesiastes 8:6, 3 voices
Ecclesiastes 8:6-7
"For everything has its time and justice, for man's evil overwhelms him. Indeed he does not know what will happen, for when it happens , who will tell him? "Many good and bad things can befall a man, but even a righteous man is not able to know what will befall him, or know the causes and reasons for each thing, (for no one can know what will happen), but he does know that all things are done by God to the advantage of man, and nothing is done without His will.
Jerome· written before 420· Commentary on Ecclesiastespatristic
Ecclesiastes 8:6
“Because to every purpose there is time and judgment,.... There is a fit season, and a right and proper manner of doing everything that is to be done; see Ecc 3:1; which a wise man discerns; and which when a man hits upon, it prevents a great deal of mischief, which for want of it comes upon men, as the following clause shows; some refer this to the punishment of the wicked, and to a future judgment.”
Ecclesiastes 8:6
“To every purpose there is time - חפץ chaphets, every volition, every thing that depends on the will of man. He has generally the opportunity to do whatever he purposes; and as his purposes are frequently evil, his acts are so too: and in consequence his misery is great.”
Adam Clarke· Commentary on the Bible (1810-1826)evangelical
Ecclesiastes 8:7, 1 voice
Ecclesiastes 8:7
“Most of the miseries men labour under would have been prevented if they could have been foreseen and the happy time discovered to avoid them. Men are miserable because they are not sufficiently sagacious and attentive. Whatever other evils may be avoided, we are all under a fatal necessity of dying,”
Matthew Henry· Commentary on the Whole Bible (1707-1721)puritan
Ecclesiastes 8:8
no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit: No man hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit, neither power in the day of death states a limit no king's word can override: the same monarch whose commandment governs a courtier's life has no command over his own dying. There is no discharge in that war, the figure of a soldier held to his post no matter how urgent his errand, as Delitzsch reads the military image. Wickedness itself, the last clause adds, delivers no man from it either, closing off the one exemption a reader might imagine.
Ecclesiastes 8:8, 3 voices
Ecclesiastes 8:8
"Man is powerless over the spirit-to restrain the spirit; nor is there authority over the day of death; nor discharge in war; and wickedness cannot save the wrong-doer. "Our mind does not have the power to prevent the spirit from being taken from us, and when the spirit leaves to the realm of God, it helps nothing to shut out mouth and hold in our fleeting life. And when we are dead, the enemy of our life will come and we are not able to take any rest.
Jerome· written before 420· Commentary on Ecclesiastespatristic
Ecclesiastes 8:8
“There is no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit - The Chaldee has, “There is no man who can rule over the spirit of the breath, so as to prevent the animal life from leaving the body of man.” Others translate to this sense: “No man hath power over the wind to restrain the wind; and none has power over death to restrain him; and when a man engages as a soldier, he cannot be discharged from the war till it is ended; and by wickedness no man shall be delivered from any evil.” Taking it in this way, these are maxims which contain self-evident truths.”
Adam Clarke· Commentary on the Bible (1810-1826)evangelical
Ecclesiastes 8:8
“But in that war (death) there is no exemption. those . . . given to--literally, the master of it. Wickedness can get money for the sinner, but cannot deliver him from the death, temporal and eternal, which is its penalty (Isa 28:15, 18).”
Jamieson, Fausset & Brown· Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871)reformed
Ecclesiastes 8:9-10
one man ruleth over another to his own hurt: There is a time wherein one man ruleth over another to his own hurt turns from the king's court to what the Preacher has watched more broadly, abuse of power that harms the ruler as much as the ruled. He then reports a specific case: wicked men buried with honor, coming and going from the place of the holy, then forgotten in the very city where they had done their evil. The Preacher calls even this forgetting a vanity, since it removes the visible reckoning a reader might expect to find.
Ecclesiastes 8:9, 2 voices
Ecclesiastes 8:9
“To his own hurt - Or, “to the hurt of the subject.” The case is still that of an unwise king whose command is obeyed Ecc 8:2 even to the hurt of the wise man who obeys him.”
Ecclesiastes 8:9
“It is sad with a people when those that should protect their religion and rights aim at the destruction of both. (2.) To the hurt of the rulers (so we render it), to their own hurt, to the feeling of their pride and covetousness, the gratifying of their passion and revenge, and so to the filling up of the measure of their sins and the hastening and aggravating of their ruin.”
Matthew Henry· Commentary on the Whole Bible (1707-1721)puritan
B.Sentence Not Executed Speedily: and God's Work Past Finding Outvv. 10-17
Ecclesiastes 8:10, 3 voicesWhat preachers and commentators have said about these verses, in their own words.
Ecclesiastes 8:10
“As for exaltation in fame he says: I saw the wicked buried, namely by the depth of despair: Proverbs 18: "When the wicked man comes into the depth of sins, he scorns." Or: buried, by the heap of flattery: Matthew 8: "Let the dead bury …”
Bonaventure· written before 1257· Commentary on Ecclesiastes, Chapter 8patristic
Ecclesiastes 8:10
“Who had come and gone from the place of the holy - The place of the holy is the sacred office which they held, anointed either as kings or priests to God; and, not having fulfilled the holy office in a holy way, have been carried to their graves without lamentation, and lie among the dead without remembrance.”
Adam Clarke· Commentary on the Bible (1810-1826)evangelical
Ecclesiastes 8:10
“The holy - The throne or tribunal seems to be so called here, to aggravate their wickedness, who being advanced by God into so high and sacred a place, betrayed so great a trust. Where - They lived in great splendour, and were buried with great magnificence. This - That men should so earnestly thirst after glory, which is so soon extinct.”
John Wesley· Explanatory Notes upon the Old Testament (1765)evangelical
Ecclesiastes 8:11
sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily: Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily names the very thing that emboldens sin: the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil precisely because judgment is delayed. The observation is not doubted or softened; the bench reads it as plain moral psychology, slow justice breeding presumption rather than repentance. This verse stands as one side of a tension the chapter will not resolve, set directly against the assurance that follows it.
Ecclesiastes 8:11, 2 voices
Ecclesiastes 8:11
“Let them rest assured that punishment shall be inflicted on the wicked, and rewards shall be bestowed upon the righteous, by him who deals with everyone as each deserves, and who will proportion his rewards to the good that each has done, and to the account of himself that he is able to give. And let all know that the good shall be advanced to a higher state, and that the wicked shall be delivered over to sufferings and torments, in punishment of their licentiousness and depravity, their cowardice, timidity, and all their follies.”
Origen of Alexandria· written before 253· AGAINST CELSUS 8:52patristic
Ecclesiastes 8:11
“Because sentence - פתגם pithgam, a Divine decree or declaration. This is no Hebrew, but a mere Chaldee word, and occurs only in the later books of the Bible - Esther, Ezra and Daniel, and nowhere else but in this place. Because God does not immediately punish every delinquency, men think he disregards evil acts; and therefore they are emboldened to sin on. So this longsuffering of God, which leadeth to repentance, is abused so as to lead to farther crimes! When men sin against the remedy of their salvation, how can they escape perdition?”
Adam Clarke· Commentary on the Bible (1810-1826)evangelical
Ecclesiastes 8:12-13
it shall be well with them that fear God: Yet surely I know that it shall be well with them that fear God answers the delayed-sentence observation of verse eleven directly, and the Preacher states his own certainty although a sinner do evil an hundred times and his days be prolonged. The wicked, by contrast, will not prolong his days, which are as a shadow, because he feareth not before God. The two verses hold both truths without resolving them into one, sentence delayed does embolden the sinner, and yet the Preacher knows it will be well with those who fear God.
Ecclesiastes 8:12, 3 voices
Ecclesiastes 8:12
"Because a sinner does what is wrong an hundred times and He is patient with him, yet nevertheless I am aware that it will be well with those who fear God that they may fear Him. "Because a sinner has done many wicked deeds, this is what is meant by, 'an hundred times': God gives a time for repentance, and does not punish him immediately for his crime, but he waits so that he is converted by his wickedness. I understand how good-willing and forgiving God will be to those who fear Him and tremble at His word.
Jerome· written before 420· Commentary on Ecclesiastespatristic
Ecclesiastes 8:12
“Though a sinner do evil an hundred times,.... That is ever so many times, a certain number for an uncertain; though he lives in a continued course of sin, being resolved upon the above consideration to give himself a swing to his lusts. The Targum renders it a hundred years; though be should live so long in sin, yet at last should be accursed Isa 65:”
Ecclesiastes 8:12
“He says this, lest the sinner should abuse the statement (Ec 7:15), "A wicked man prolongeth his life." before him--literally, "at His presence"; reverently serve Him, realizing His continual presence.”
Jamieson, Fausset & Brown· Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871)reformed
Ecclesiastes 8:13, 1 voice
Ecclesiastes 8:13
“But it shall not be well with the wicked - Let not the long-spared sinner presume that, because sentence is not speedily executed on his evil works, and he is suffered to go on to his hundredth transgression, God has forgotten to punish. No, he feareth not before Good; and therefore he shall not ultimately escape.”
Adam Clarke· Commentary on the Bible (1810-1826)evangelical
Ecclesiastes 8:14
just men, unto whom it happeneth according to the work of the wicked: There be just men, unto whom it happeneth according to the work of the wicked names the reversal that troubles every honest reader of providence, the righteous suffering what sin deserves and the wicked receiving what righteousness deserves. The Preacher calls this too a vanity, and does not explain it away or pretend the pattern does not exist under the sun. Henry and Clarke both note that this is the very problem Job and several Psalms carry directly, named here without being resolved.
Ecclesiastes 8:14, 3 voices
Ecclesiastes 8:14
“Which is done upon the earth - The instance of vanity, to which these words are applied, is the seeming inequality of God’s justice; but if they are considered in connection with the profession of personal faith in God’s absolute justice Ecc 8:12, the conclusion is irresistible, that, whatever reason the Preacher had for reserve in declaring his belief, he certainly looked forward to final judgment in a future state of existence (compare Ecc 3:17; Ecc 12:14).”
Ecclesiastes 8:14
“The objector adds, as Solomon had said, that the worldling's pursuits are "vanity" (Ec 8:10), "I say (not 'said') this also is vanity. Then I commend mirth," &c. [HOLDEN]. Ec 8:14, 15 may, however, be explained as teaching a cheerful, thankful use of God's gifts "under the sun," that is, not making them the chief good, as sensualists do, which Ec 2:2;”
Jamieson, Fausset & Brown· Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871)reformed
Ecclesiastes 8:14
“He saw just men to whom it happened according to the work of the wicked, who, notwithstanding their righteousness, suffered very hard things, and continued long to do so, as if they were to be punished for some great wickedness.”
Matthew Henry· Commentary on the Whole Bible (1707-1721)puritan
Ecclesiastes 8:15
a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: is the refrain's fourth appearance, following 2:24, 3:13 and 5:18, and each time it names the same gift rather than a new resignation. The commended mirth is not escape from the hard verses around it but the portion God gives for labor, received rather than seized, as Bridges reads the refrain across the book. It answers the unequal dealings of verse fourteen not by explaining them but by pointing the reader back to what is actually given him to enjoy.
Ecclesiastes 8:15, 2 voices
Ecclesiastes 8:15
“Mirth - Better, Gladness, or “joy” (as in Ecc 2:10). The Hebrew word is applied not only to the pleasures arising from the physical senses, but also frequently to religious joy. The sentiment of this verse is a frequent conclusion of the writer’s personal experience (compare marginal references), and is unfairly charged with Epicureanism. The Preacher is careful to set forth pleasure as a gift from God, to be earned by labor, and received with thankfulness to the Giver, and to be accounted for to Him. His estimate of the pleasures of the senses is recorded in Ecc 7:2-6.”
Ecclesiastes 8:15
“This present life must be reckoned by days; this life is given us, and the days of it are allotted to us, by the counsel of God, and therefore while it does last we must accommodate ourselves to the will of God and study to answer the ends of life.”
Matthew Henry· Commentary on the Whole Bible (1707-1721)puritan
Ecclesiastes 8:16-17
to know wisdom, and to see the business that is done upon the earth: When I applied mine heart to know wisdom, and to see the business that is done upon the earth describes the Preacher's most strenuous inquiry in the chapter, pursued even at the cost of sleep. The verdict he reaches closes the search rather than crowning it: a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun, and even a wise man who thinks he knows it shall not be able to find it. Gill reads this as the limit of unaided reason before providence, a limit the chapter has been demonstrating case by case since the king's court.
Ecclesiastes 8:16, 3 voices
Ecclesiastes 8:16
“When I applied mine heart to know wisdom - This is the reply of the wise man: “I have also considered these seeming contradictions. God governs the world; but we cannot see the reasons of his conduct, nor know why he does this, omits that, or permits a third thing. We may study night and day, and deprive ourselves of rest and sleep, but we shall never fathom the depths that are in the Divine government; but all is right and just.”
Adam Clarke· Commentary on the Bible (1810-1826)evangelical
Ecclesiastes 8:16
“To see - To observe mens various designs and employments, and their unwearied labours about worldly things. For there is - Having now mentioned the business which is done, or which man doth, upon earth, he further adds, as an evidence of man's eagerness in pursuing his business, for even by day and by night he (the busy man) seeth not sleep with his eyes.”
John Wesley· Explanatory Notes upon the Old Testament (1765)evangelical
Ecclesiastes 8:16-17
“Some think Solomon speaks of himself, that he was so eager in prosecuting this great enquiry that he could not sleep for thinking of it. That it was all labour in vain,”
Matthew Henry· Commentary on the Whole Bible (1707-1721)puritan
Ecclesiastes 8:17, 4 voices
Ecclesiastes 8:17
“Therefore he adds: And I understood that man can find no reason for all the works of God, of those works, namely, which are done under the sun: Sirach 43: "Do not labor, for you will not comprehend." And the more he has labored to …”
Bonaventure· written before 1257· Commentary on Ecclesiastes, Chapter 8patristic
Ecclesiastes 8:17
“Then I beheld all the work of God, that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun - I saw it to be of such a nature - 1. That a man cannot find it out. 2. That if he labor to find it out, he shall not succeed. 3. That though he be wise - the most instructed among men, and think to find it out, he shall find he is not able. It is beyond the wisdom and power of man. How vain then are all your cavils about Providence.”
Adam Clarke· Commentary on the Bible (1810-1826)evangelical
Ecclesiastes 8:17
“Find out - No man, though ever so wise, is able fully and perfectly to understand these things. And therefore it is best for man not to perplex himself with endless enquiries, but quietly to submit to God's will and providence, and to live in the fear of God, and the comfortable enjoyment of his blessing.”
John Wesley· Explanatory Notes upon the Old Testament (1765)evangelical
Ecclesiastes 8:17
“Nay, [3.] Though he be very confident of success, though he think to know it, yet he shall not; he cannot find it out. God's ways are above ours, nor is he tied to his own former ways, but his judgments are a great deep.”
Matthew Henry· Commentary on the Whole Bible (1707-1721)puritan
Where the chapter sits
Ecclesiastes 8 falls in The examination (chapters 2–11). Wisdom, pleasure, work, wealth, time, friendship, political order, religious observance, all tested and all found *hevel* under the sun. Interspersed with counsels of enjoyment (2:24–26, 3:12–13, 5:18–20, 8:15, 9:7–10), not hedonism, but reception of life as gift.
Before it: Prologue: the quest announced, chapters 1. After it: Conclusion: fear God, chapters 12.
The whole shape of Ecclesiastes→Key words
The Hebrew words this chapter turns on, by how often it uses them. Each one opens its word study.
| Word | What it means | Verses |
|---|---|---|
| עָשָׂהʻâsâh10 times, as יַעֲשֶֽׂה׃, תַּעֲשֶֽׂה׃, נַעֲשָׂ֖ה | he will do | 3, 4, 9, 10 and 5 more |
| אָדָםʼâdâm9 times, as אָדָם֙, הָאָדָ֖ם, אָדָ֞ם | anyone | 1, 6, 8, 9 and 3 more |
| אַיִןʼayin8 times, as אֵינֶ֥נּוּ, אֵ֣ין, וְאֵ֤ין | not he | 7, 8, 11, 13 and 2 more |
| יָדַעyâdaʻ7 times, as יוֹדֵ֖עַ, יֵדַ֖ע, יֹדֵ֖עַ | to know | 1, 5, 7, 12 and 2 more |
| רַעraʻ7 times, as רָ֑ע, רָעַ֥ת, לְרַ֥ע | evil | 3, 5, 6, 9 and 2 more |
| מַעֲשֶׂהmaʻăseh6 times, as מַעֲשֶׂ֔ה, מַעֲשֵׂ֥ה, כְּמַעֲשֵׂ֣ה | work | 9, 11, 14, 17 |
Cross references
The 8 chapters this one speaks with, most first. Open a row for the verses it shares.
Ecclesiastes 34 verses
Ecclesiastes 8:6
Ecclesiastes 3:1To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:Ecclesiastes 8:6, 17
Ecclesiastes 3:11He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.Ecclesiastes 8:15
Ecclesiastes 3:12I know that there is no good in them, but for a man to rejoice, and to do good in his life.Ecclesiastes 8:6
Ecclesiastes 3:17I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.- Read Ecclesiastes 3 →
Ecclesiastes 24 verses
Ecclesiastes 8:14
Ecclesiastes 2:14The wise man’s eyes are in his head; but the fool walketh in darkness: and I myself perceived also that one event happeneth to them all.Ecclesiastes 8:10
Ecclesiastes 2:16For there is no remembrance of the wise more than of the fool for ever; seeing that which now is in the days to come shall all be forgotten. And how dieth the wise man? as the fool.Ecclesiastes 8:16
Ecclesiastes 2:23For all his days are sorrows, and his travail grief; yea, his heart taketh not rest in the night. This is also vanity.Ecclesiastes 8:15
Ecclesiastes 2:24There is nothing better for a man, than that he should eat and drink, and that he should make his soul enjoy good in his labour. This also I saw, that it was from the hand of God.- Read Ecclesiastes 2 →
Ecclesiastes 53 verses
Ecclesiastes 8:9
Ecclesiastes 5:8If thou seest the oppression of the poor, and violent perverting of judgment and justice in a province, marvel not at the matter: for he that is higher than the highest regardeth; and there be higher than they.Ecclesiastes 8:9
Ecclesiastes 5:13There is a sore evil which I have seen under the sun, namely, riches kept for the owners thereof to their hurt.Ecclesiastes 8:15
Ecclesiastes 5:18Behold that which I have seen: it is good and comely for one to eat and to drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labour that he taketh under the sun all the days of his life, which God giveth him: for it is his portion.- Read Ecclesiastes 5 →
Ecclesiastes 102 verses
Ecclesiastes 8:3
Ecclesiastes 10:4If the spirit of the ruler rise up against thee, leave not thy place; for yielding pacifieth great offences.Ecclesiastes 8:7
Ecclesiastes 10:14A fool also is full of words: a man cannot tell what shall be; and what shall be after him, who can tell him?- Read Ecclesiastes 10 →
The rest of the chapters this one speaks with, 4 of them, for a reader following a thread past the four above
- Ecclesiastes 92 verses
- Job 142 verses
- Daniel 41 verse
- Ecclesiastes 61 verse
Cross-references from the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge and OpenBible.info.
The world behind itThe place, the time and the people around this chapter, for a reader who wants the setting.
The world behind this chapter
Ecclesiastes 8The history
"I counsel thee to keep the king's commandment, and that in regard of the oath of God." Officials and subjects swore loyalty to the throne with an oath sworn in God's name. Breaking it was not merely disloyalty; it was perjury before God. That is why the chapter grounds obedience to a king in an oath rather than in the king's virtue.
"Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou?" There was no appeal above the throne and no constitution behind it. "Go not out of his sight; stand not in an evil thing" is advice for a courtier: do not storm out of the room, and do not join a conspiracy.
"There is no discharge in that war" uses conscription language. Armies were raised by levy, and while the Law listed a few exemptions, a new house, a new vineyard, a new wife, once you were in the field there was no leaving. The writer applies it to the day of death, from which no exemption exists at all.
"Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil." Ancient justice was slow and personal, dependent on witnesses coming forward and elders convening. Delay was the standard experience of anyone waiting for a wrong to be righted.
What it meant to them
The chapter names out loud the thing that most troubled devout hearers: there are just men who receive what the wicked deserve, and wicked men who receive what the just deserve. It does not explain it away.
What it offers instead is a stubborn confidence, "it shall be well with them that fear God", held alongside an admission that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun, however hard he labours to seek it.
Sources cited
- John H. Walton, Victor H. Matthews, Mark W. Chavalas, The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament
- Roland de Vaux, Ancient Israel: Its Life and Institutions
The text of this chapter
This page carries no textual note on Ecclesiastes 8. Where this site has examined a place the manuscripts differ, the examination is in the manuscripts room. Every place this site examines →
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This page draws on Adam Clarke; Albert Barnes, Notes, Explanatory and Practical, on the Old and New Testaments (1832-1869); Ambrose of Milan, Interrogation of Job and David 2.7.27; Bonaventure, Commentary on Ecclesiastes, Chapter 8; Charles Bridges, An Exposition of the Book of Ecclesiastes; Charles Spurgeon, The Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, Sermon No. 1697: “The Word of a King” (lightly modernized text, CCEL edition) (1882); Franz Delitzsch, Commentary on the Song of Songs and Ecclesiastes; Jamieson, Fausset & Brown, Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871); Jerome, Commentary on Ecclesiastes; John Gill; John Wesley, Explanatory Notes upon the Old Testament (1765); Matthew Henry and Origen of Alexandria, AGAINST CELSUS 8:52.
