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2 Chronicles 25:17

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Then Amaziah king of Judah took counsel and sent word to the king of Israel Jehoash son of Jehoahaz, the son of Jehu. “Come, let us meet face to face,” he said.

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The same verse in ASV and KJV ▾

ASV

Then Amaziah king of Judah took advice, and sent to Joash, the son of Jehoahaz the son of Jehu, king of Israel, saying, Come, let us look one another in the face.

KJV

Then Amaziah king of Judah took advice, and sent to Joash, the son of Jehoahaz, the son of Jehu, king of Israel, saying, Come, let us see one another in the face.

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This verse in 2 Chronicles 25

Commentary

4 notes on this verse

A commentator

Matthew Henry

1662–1714

Commentary on the Whole Bible (1710)

Not of the prophet--he was not made of the king's counsel; but of his statesmen that would flatter him and bid him go up and prosper. It is good to take advice, but then it must be of those that are fit to advise us.

This site's exposition

Come, let us see one another in the face

on 2 Chronicles 25:17-19

Amaziah's challenge to Joash of Israel and Joash's answering fable of the thistle and the cedar run close to 2 Kings 14:8-9, already built there, and Chronicles adds no new wording to the parable itself. What Chronicles changes is placement: in Kings the challenge follows straight on the Edom victory, flushed pride after a battle won, while here it follows the idol worship and the prophet's silenced warning, so the same swagger reads as spiritual defiance rather than only military overconfidence. Joash's counsel, abide now at home, is the second warning Amaziah refuses in one chapter.

The record, by era

The Puritans and the Awakening2 voices

A commentator

John Wesley

1703–1791

Explanatory Notes upon the Old Testament (1765)

proposed

Advice - About the injury which the Israelites had done to his people, and how he should repair it. Not with the prophet, but with his flattering statesmen. It is good to take advice: but it should be of them who are fit to advise us.
Then Amaziah king of Judah took advice,.... Not of God, nor of his prophets, but of some of his nobles like himself: and sent to Joash--king of Israel; of his message to him here, and his answer in the two following verses, see the following notes: See Gill on 2Ki 14:8. See Gill on 2Ki 14:9. See Gill on 2Ki 14:10.

How the passage was read

What the Jewish commentators add

Come, let us confront each other to show our might on horses with spears.
Rashi: France, 1040–1105 · Rashi on II Chronicles 25:17:1, via Sefaria, The Judaica Press complete Tanach with Rashi, translated by A. J. Rosenberg
1 more on this passage, in their own words ▾
that God has given counsel to destroy you i.e., If you do not hearken to My advice to follow the straight path, you should know, O king, that the Lord has given counsel to destroy you because you have done this, and have not hearkened to the counsel.
Rashi: France, 1040–1105 · Rashi on II Chronicles 25:16:1, via Sefaria, The Judaica Press complete Tanach with Rashi, translated by A. J. Rosenberg

This section is reception history: how the passage was read and kept in the Jewish tradition. Where a reading parts from an essential of the Christian faith, the section says so at that point.

Texts and citation data: Sefaria; each excerpt follows its version’s licence. 3 further sources are cited on this chapter that carry no English text this site may quote or only restate the verse.

The words behind it

17 Hebrew words

Every Hebrew word of this verse in the order it stands, with what it means and the door to its own study. The last column counts the times a word stands in the whole Bible: the rarer the word, the more the places it appears belong together.

  • וַיִּוָּעַ֗ץand he took counsel

    vaiyivaatzH3289 →79 times

  • אֲמַצְיָ֙הוּ֙Amaziah

    ʾamatzyahuH558 →40 times

  • מֶ֣לֶךְ[the] king of

    melekhH4428 →2525 times

  • יְהוּדָ֔הJudah

    yehudahH3063 →819 times

  • וַ֠יִּשְׁלַחand he sent

    vaiyishlachH7971 →845 times

  • אֶל־to

    ʾel-H413 →5510 times

  • יוֹאָ֨שׁJoash

    yoashH3101 →47 times

  • בֶּן־[the] son of

    ben-H1121 →4930 times

  • יְהוֹאָחָ֧זJehoahaz

    yehoachazH3059 →20 times

  • בֶּן־[the] son of

    ben-H1121 →4930 times

  • יֵה֛וּאJehu

    yehu'H3058 →58 times

  • מֶ֥לֶךְ[the] king of

    melekhH4428 →2525 times

  • יִשְׂרָאֵ֖לIsrael

    yisraelH3478 →2507 times

  • לֵאמֹ֑ר<to> saying

    lemorH559 →5305 times

  • לְכָ֖הcome !

    lekhahH1980 →1546 times

  • נִתְרָאֶ֥הlet us look at one another

    nitraehH7200 →1300 times

  • פָנִֽים׃faces

    fanimH6440 →2123 times

A shaded row is a word that stands 400 times or fewer in the Bible.

Related verses

5 in all, six open

The number beside each verse is how many compiled reference works tie it to this one. The strongest six stand open.

2 Kings 14:8–14Then Amaziah sent messengers to the king of Israel Jehoash son of Jehoahaz, the son of Jehu. “Come, let us meet face to face,” he said.4 worksProverbs 20:3It is honorable for a man to resolve a dispute, but any fool will quarrel.2 works2 Samuel 2:14Then Abner said to Joab, “Let us have the young men get up and compete before us.” “Let them get up,” Joab replied.2 works2 Chronicles 25:13Meanwhile the troops that Amaziah had dismissed from battle raided the cities of Judah, from Samaria to Beth-horon. They struck down 3,000 people and carried off a great deal of plunder.2 worksLuke 2:43When those days were over and they were returning home, the boy Jesus remained behind in Jerusalem, but His parents were unaware He had stayed.2 works

The walk

8 stops

Each card is a verse this one points to, and under it the verses that one points to in turn. Where several paths arrive at the same place, that place is listed first: the text keeps returning to it.

  • Through

    Proverbs 20:3

    It is honorable for a man to resolve a dispute, but any fool will quarrel.

    it leads to

    • Proverbs 16:32

      He who is slow to anger is better than a warrior, and he who controls his temper is greater than one who captures a city.

    • Proverbs 17:14

      To start a quarrel is to release a flood; so abandon the dispute before it breaks out.

    • Proverbs 19:11

      A man’s insight gives him patience, and his virtue is to overlook an offense.

    • Proverbs 18:6

      A fool’s lips bring him strife, and his mouth invites a beating.

    • Ephesians 4:32

      Be kind and tenderhearted to one another, forgiving each other just as in Christ God forgave you.

  • Through

    2 Samuel 2:14

    Then Abner said to Joab, “Let us have the young men get up and compete before us.” “Let them get up,” Joab replied.

    it leads to

    • 2 Samuel 2:17

      The battle that day was intense, and Abner and the men of Israel were defeated by the servants of David.

  • Through

    2 Chronicles 25:13

    Meanwhile the troops that Amaziah had dismissed from battle raided the cities of Judah, from Samaria to Beth-horon. They struck down 3,000 people and carried off a great deal of plunder.

    it leads to

    • 1 Kings 16:24

      He bought the hill of Samaria from Shemer for two talents of silver and built a city there, calling it Samaria after the name of Shemer, who had owned the hill.

    • 1 Kings 9:17

      So Solomon rebuilt Gezer, Lower Beth-horon,

About 2 Chronicles

Solomon Receives the Queen of Sheba, Gustave Doré, 1866. Public domain.
Solomon Receives the Queen of Sheba, Gustave Doré, 1866. Public domain.
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This page draws on John Gill, Exposition of the Old Testament (1748-1763); John Wesley, Explanatory Notes upon the Old Testament; Keil, The Books of the Chronicles and Matthew Henry, Commentary on the Whole Bible.

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