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Joshua 17:16

in Joshua 17

“The hill country is not enough for us,” they replied, “and all the Canaanites who live in the valley have iron chariots, both in Beth-shean with its towns and in the Valley of Jezreel.”

BSB

The same verse in ASV and KJV ▾

ASV

And the children of Joseph said, The hill-country is not enough for us: and all the Canaanites that dwell in the land of the valley have chariots of iron, both they who are in Beth-shean and its towns, and they who are in the valley of Jezreel.

KJV

And the children of Joseph said, The hill is not enough for us: and all the Canaanites that dwell in the land of the valley have chariots of iron, both they who are of Beth–shean and her towns, and they who are of the valley of Jezreel.

This verse in Joshua 17

Commentary

9 notes on this verse

A commentator

Adam Clarke

1762–1832

Commentary on the Bible · Written before 1832.

The hill is not enough for us - The mountain of Gilboa being that which had fallen to them by lot. Chariots of iron - We cannot possess the plain country, because that is occupied by the Canaanites; and we cannot conquer them, because they have chariots of iron, that is, very strong chariots, and armed with scythes, as is generally supposed.

This site's exposition

Why have you given us only one portion

on Joshua 17:14-18

Joshua, an Ephraimite by Numbers 13:8, sends his own kinsmen to clear the forest in the land of the Perizzites and the Rephaim. Albert Barnes weighs their claim against Numbers 26, where Ephraim and Manasseh together are not much larger than Judah alone, and beside their complaints at Judges 8:1 and 12:1. Joshua grants their strength and says they can drive out the Canaanites despite iron chariots.

This site's exposition

iron chariots

Barnes describes the plain of Jezreel as the natural battlefield of the land, and he places Midian's camp in this valley when Gideon attacked at Judges 7:1. Wesley reads the complaint as fear of fighting in woods where the defenders hold the advantage. Israel later fell on nearby Gilboa at 1 Samuel 31:1.

The record, by era

The Puritans and the Awakening4 voices

A commentator

John Wesley

1703–1791

Explanatory Notes upon the Old Testament (1765)

Is not enough - Hebrew. the hill will not be found, that is, obtained by us; those fierce and strong people the Perizzites and the giants will easily defend themselves, and frustrate our attempts, having the advantage of the woods and mountains.

A commentator

Matthew Henry

1662–1714

Commentary on the Whole Bible (1710)

proposed

The Inheritance of Joseph's Children. 1 There was also a lot for the tribe of Manasseh; for he was the firstborn of Joseph; to wit, for Machir the firstborn of Manasseh, the father of Gilead: because he was a man of war, therefore he had Gilead and Bashan.

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And the children of Joseph said, the hill is not enough for us,....

A commentator

Matthew Henry

1662–1714

Commentary on the Whole Bible (1710)

proposed

They urge that though they had a good portion assigned them, yet it was in bad hands, and they could not come to the possession of it, wishing to have their lot in those countries that were more thoroughly reduced than this was.

The Nineteenth Century1 voice

A commentator

Jamieson, Fausset & Brown

1802–1910

Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871)

proposed

the children of Joseph spake unto Joshua--The two tribes join in laying a complaint before the leader, as to the narrow boundaries of their allotment and its insufficiency to be the residence of tribes so vastly increased. But Joshua's answer was full of wisdom as well as patriotism.

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1 more voice on this verse

The Nineteenth Century1 voice

The possession by the Canaanites of chariots strengthened and tipped with iron, such as were used by the Egyptians Exo 14:7, is named here by the children of Joseph as a reason why they could not possess themselves of the plains. “The valley of Jezreel” is the broad low valley which sweeps from “Zerin” between the mountains of Gilboa and the range of little Hermon eastward down to the Jordan. It was most likely in this valley that the host of the Midianites was encamped, when attacked by Gideon Jdg 7:1, Jdg 7:8. The great plain of Jezreel, called the plain of Esdraelon (Esdrelom, Judith 1:8), extends from Carmel on the west to the hills of Gilboa, little Hermon, and Tabor on the east, a distance of full sixteen miles; and its breadth between the rocky mass of southern Palestine and the bolder mountains of Galilee on the north, is about twelve miles. Its position as well as its open area make it the natural battlefield of Palestine.

How the passage was read

What the Jewish commentators add

On the verses either side of this one

If you are indeed such a multitude of people— then you have the strength to cut down forests and to clear them, as expressed in old French, essarter, and there you will be able to build cities.
Rashi: France, 1040–1105 · Rashi on Joshua 17:15:1, via Sefaria, The Book of Joshua, Metsudah Publications, 1997

This section is reception history: how the passage was read and kept in the Jewish tradition. Where a reading parts from an essential of the Christian faith, the section says so at that point.

Texts and citation data: Sefaria; each excerpt follows its version’s licence. 2 further sources are cited on this chapter that carry no English text this site may quote or only restate the verse.

The words behind it

21 Hebrew words

Every Hebrew word of this verse in the order it stands, with what it means and the door to its own study. The last column counts the times a word stands in the whole Bible: the rarer the word, the more the places it appears belong together.

  • וַיֹּֽאמְרוּ֙and they said

    vaiyomeruH559 →5305 times

  • בְּנֵ֣י[the] descendants of

    beneiH1121 →4930 times

  • יוֹסֵ֔ףJoseph

    yosefH3130 →213 times

  • לֹֽא־not

    lo'-H3808 →5168 times

  • יִמָּ֥צֵאit will be found

    yimatze'H4672 →455 times

  • לָ֖נוּfor <the> us

    lanu

  • הָהָ֑רthe hill country

    haharH2022 →546 times

  • וְרֶ֣כֶבand chariotry of

    verekhevH7393 →119 times

  • בַּרְזֶ֗לiron

    barzelH1270 →76 times

  • בְּכָל־[is] among all

    bekholH3605 →5413 times

  • הַֽכְּנַעֲנִי֙the Canaanite[s]

    hakenaaniH3669 →73 times

  • הַיֹּשֵׁ֣בwho dwells

    haiyoshevH3427 →1079 times

  • בְּאֶֽרֶץ־in [the] land of

    beeretz-H776 →2504 times

  • הָעֵ֔מֶקthe valley

    haemekH6010 →69 times

  • לַֽאֲשֶׁ֤רto [those] who

    laasherH834 →5497 times

  • בְּבֵית־[are] in Beth

    beveit-H1052 →18 times

  • שְׁאָן֙Shean

    sheanH1052 →18 times

  • וּבְנוֹתֶ֔יהָand daughters its

    uvenoteihaH1323 →588 times

  • וְלַֽאֲשֶׁ֖רand to [those] who

    velaasherH834 →5497 times

  • בְּעֵ֥מֶק[are] in [the] valley of

    beemekH6010 →69 times

  • יִזְרְעֶֽאל׃Jezreel

    yizreelH3157 →36 times

A shaded row is a word that stands 400 times or fewer in the Bible.

The walk

8 stops

Each card is a verse this one points to, and under it the verses that one points to in turn. Where several paths arrive at the same place, that place is listed first: the text keeps returning to it.

  • Through

    Joshua 17:18

    because the hill country will be yours as well. It is a forest; clear it, and its farthest limits will be yours. Although the Canaanites have iron chariots and although they are strong, you…

    it leads to

    • Romans 8:31

      What then shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us?

      Reached by 2 separate paths from here.

    • Hebrews 13:6

      So we say with confidence: “The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid. What can man do to me?”

  • Through

    Judges 4:3

    Then the Israelites cried out to the LORD, because Jabin had nine hundred chariots of iron, and he had harshly oppressed the Israelites for twenty years.

    it leads to

    • Judges 1:19

      The LORD was with Judah, and they took possession of the hill country; but they could not drive out the inhabitants of the plains because they had chariots of iron.

  • Through

    Judges 6:33

    Then all the Midianites, Amalekites, and other people of the east gathered together, crossed over the Jordan, and camped in the Valley of Jezreel.

    it leads to

    • Judges 6:3

      Whenever the Israelites would plant their crops, the Midianites, Amalekites, and other people of the east would come up and invade them,

  • Through

    1 Kings 4:12

    Baana son of Ahilud in Taanach, in Megiddo, and in all of Beth-shean next to Zarethan below Jezreel, from Beth-shean to Abel-meholah and on past Jokmeam;

    it leads to

    • Joshua 17:11

      Within Issachar and Asher, Manasseh was assigned Beth-shean, Ibleam, Dor (that is, Naphath), Endor, Taanach, and Megiddo, each with their surrounding settlements.

    • Judges 5:19

      Kings came and fought; then the kings of Canaan fought at Taanach by the waters of Megiddo, but they took no plunder of silver.

  • Through

    Judges 1:19

    The LORD was with Judah, and they took possession of the hill country; but they could not drive out the inhabitants of the plains because they had chariots of iron.

    it leads to

    • Isaiah 41:10

      Do not fear, for I am with you; do not be afraid, for I am your God. I will strengthen you; I will surely help you; I will uphold you with My right hand…

    • Psalms 60:12

      With God we will perform with valor, and He will trample our enemies.

About Joshua

Joshua Commanding the Sun to Stand Still upon Gibeon, John Martin, 1816, National Gallery of Art. Public domain.
Joshua Commanding the Sun to Stand Still upon Gibeon, John Martin, 1816, National Gallery of Art. Public domain.

This page draws on Adam Clarke, Commentary on the Bible; Albert Barnes, Notes on the Old Testament; Albert Barnes, Notes, Explanatory and Practical, on the Old and New Testaments (1832-1869); Jamieson, Fausset & Brown, Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible; John Gill, Exposition of the Old Testament (1748-1763); John Wesley, Explanatory Notes upon the Old Testament; Matthew Henry, Commentary on the Whole Bible and The Berean Standard Bible, Joshua 17, with the verses cited in the note.