Hosea 8:4
in Hosea 8They set up kings, but not by Me. They make princes, but without My approval. With their silver and gold they make themselves idols, to their own destruction.
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ASV
They have set up kings, but not by me; they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off.
KJV
They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off.
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This verse in Hosea 8
Commentary
11 notes on this verseThey have set up kings, but not by me - Properly speaking, not one of the kings of Israel, from the defection of the ten tribes from the house of David, was the anointed or the Lord. I knew it not - It had not my approbation. In this sense the word know is frequently understood. That they may be cut off - That is, They shall be cut off in consequence of their idolatry.
This site's exposition
They have set up kings, but not by me
on Hosea 8:4-6
Kings and princes set up without the Lord's sanction is the political half of the indictment, the dynasty's own instability read here as a kind of idolatry, choosing rulers the way Israel had learned to choose gods. Silver and gold meant for honest use become idols instead, and the calf of Samaria receives the sharpest mockery in the book, the workman made it, therefore it is not God, an object unable to outlast its own maker's hands. The verdict lands hard, the calf of Samaria shall be broken in pieces, and the bench reads the sentence at two levels together, the image smashed and the whole religious system it stood for coming down with it.
The record, by era
The Church Fathers3 voices
When Peter is speaking to the people concerning the bishop to be ordained in the place of Judas, it says, "Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, for the multitude was together." But we notice that the apostles observed this, not only in the ordination of bishops and of priests but also in the ordinations of deacons. Concerning this very thing, in their Acts, it is also written, "The Twelve called together the multitude of the disciples," it says, "and spoke to them."6This matter was carried on diligently and cautiously, with the whole people assembled so that no unworthy man should attain to the ministry of the altar or to the priestly rank. For the fact is that sometimes unworthy men are ordained, not according to the will of God but according to human presumption. These things that do not come from a legitimate and just ordination are displeasing to God. God himself makes this known through the prophet Hosea, saying, "They made themselves a king, but not by me."
A commentator
John ChrysostomHOMILIES CONCERNING THE STATUES 3:5 · Written in the 5th century.
proposed
Because He is exceedingly desirous, that we should always take refuge in Him, and in everything make our requests unto Him; and do nothing and speak nothing without Him. For men, when we trouble them repeatedly concerning our affairs, become slothful and evasive, and conduct themselves unpleasantly towards us; but with God it is quite the reverse. Not when we apply to him continually respecting our affairs, but when we fail to do so, then is he especially displeased. Hear at least what He reproves the Jews for, when He says, "Ye have taken counsel, but not of Me, and made treaties, but not by My Spirit." For this is the custom of those who love; they desire that all the concerns of their beloved should be accomplished by means of themselves; and that they should neither do anything, nor say anything, without them. On this account did God not only on that occasion, but again elsewhere, uttering a reproof, speak the same language. "They have reigned, but not by Me; they have ruled, and they made it not known to Me."
"They themselves have reigned, and not by me; principalities have arisen, and I have not known them. They made for themselves idols of their silver and gold, so that they should be destroyed." LXX: "they themselves have reigned, and not by me; principalities have arisen, and have not declared it to me: they have made idols for themselves with their silver and gold, so that they may perish." They who, with me as their deserted ruler, have sought a king for themselves, as have the other nations, and they have acted against my (or "his") will.
The Medieval Church1 voice
A commentator
Gregory the DialogistMorals on the Book of Job, Book XXV, Section 41 · Written before 604.
proposed
But it can be reasonably asked, How it is said in this place that the Lord makes the hypocrite to reign, when by the Prophet He complains especially of this thing, saying, They have reigned, but not of Me: they have become princes, and I know them not? For, who that thinks rightly, can say that the Lord does that of which He knows nothing? But, because God's knowledge is approval, His ignorance is disapproval. Whence He says to some whom He rejects, I know you not whence ye are; depart from Me, all ye workers of iniquity. And sometimes God's doing a thing, is His allowing in His anger that which He forbids to be done. Hence He asserted that He hardened the heart of the king of Egypt, because He, in truth, allowed it to be hardened. In a marvellous manner then does God make hypocrites to reign, and knows them not. He makes them, by suffering; He knows them not, by rejecting them. Whence it is necessary, with reference to every thing, which is desired in this life, that the Inner Will should be first enquired into. And when the ear of the heart is anxious to catch Its sound, let it know that It speaks, not in words, but in deeds. When then a post of authority is offered, it is necessary for a man first to question with himself, whether his conduct is suited to the place, whether his doings are at variance with the distinction it confers; lest, perchance, the just Ruler of all should, afterwards, not regard his prayers in tribulation, because He knows not his very entering on that high office, which is the source of all his tribulation.
The Puritans and the Awakening1 voice
So they did when they revolted from their allegiance to the house of David, and set up Jeroboam, wherein, though they fulfilled God's secret counsel, yet they aimed not at his glory, nor consulted his oracle, nor applied to him by prayer for direction, nor had any regard to his providence, but were led by their own humour and hurried on by the impetus of their own passions.
4 more voices on this verse
The Puritans and the Awakening2 voices
They have set up kings, but not by me,....
If men will not quit the love and service of sin, yet they shall certainly lose all the delights and profits of it. If Samaria had continued firm and faithful to the God of Israel, he would have been a present powerful help to her; but the calf she preferred before him was a broken reed.
The Nineteenth Century2 voices
A commentator
Jamieson, Fausset & Brown1802–1910
Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871)
Israel set up Jeroboam and his successors, whereas God had appointed the house of David as the rightful kings of the whole nation. I knew it not--I approved it not (Ps 1:6). of . . . gold . . . idols-- (Ho 2:8; 13:2). that they may be cut off--that is, though warned of the consequences of idolatry, as it were with open eyes they rushed on their own destruction.
A commentator
Albert Barnes1798–1870
Notes, Explanatory and Practical, on the Old and New Testaments (1832-1869)
proposed
They have set up kings, but not by ME - God Himself foretold to Jeroboam by Ahijah the prophet, that He would “rend the kingdom out of the hands of Solomon, and give ten tribes” to him, “and” would “take” him, “and” he “should reign according to all that” his soul desired and” should “be king over Israel” 1Ki 11:31, 1Ki 11:37; and, after the ten tribes had made Jeroboam king, God said by Shemaiah the prophet to Rehoboam and the two tribes, “Ye shall not go up, nor fight against your brethren the children of Israel; return every man to his house, for this thing is from Me” 1Ki 12:22-24. Yet although here, as everywhere, man’s self-will was overruled by God’s will, and fulfilled it, it was not the less self-will, both in the ten tribes and in Jeroboam. It was so in the ten tribes. For they cast off Rehoboam, simply of their own mind, because he would not lessen the taxes, as they prescribed. If he would have consented to their demands, they would have remained his subjects 1Ki 12:4. “They set up kings, but not by or through” God, whom they never consulted, nor asked His will about the rules of the kingdom, or about its relation to the kingdom of Judah, or the house of David. They referred these matters no more to God, than if there had been no God, or than if He interfered not in the affairs of man. It was self-will in Jeroboam himself, for he received the kingdom (which Ahijah told him, he “desired”) not from God, not requiring of him, how he should undertake it, nor anointed by Him, nor in any way acknowledging Him, but from the people. […]
The words behind it
14 Hebrew wordsEvery Hebrew word of this verse in the order it stands, with what it means and the door to its own study. The last column counts the times a word stands in the whole Bible: the rarer the word, the more the places it appears belong together.
| Hebrew | Sound | Meaning | Word study | In the Bible |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| הֵ֤ם | hem | they | H1992 → | 553 times |
| הִמְלִיכוּ֙ | himlikhu | they have made kings | H4427 → | |
| וְלֹ֣א | velo' | and not | H3808 → | 5168 times |
| מִמֶּ֔נִּי | mimeni | from me | H4480 → | 1188 times |
| הֵשִׂ֖ירוּ | hesiru | they have installed leaders | H7786 → | |
| וְלֹ֣א | velo' | and not | H3808 → | 5168 times |
| יָדָ֑עְתִּי | yadaeti | I knew | H3045 → | 945 times |
| כַּסְפָּ֣ם | kaspam | silver their | H3701 → | 403 times |
| וּזְהָבָ֗ם | uzehavam | and gold their | H2091 → | |
| עָשׂ֤וּ | ʾasu | they have made | H6213 → | 2628 times |
| לָהֶם֙ | lahem | for <the> themselves | ||
| עֲצַבִּ֔ים | ʾatzabim | idols | H6091 → | 17 times |
| לְמַ֖עַן | lemaan | so that | H4616 → | |
| יִכָּרֵֽת׃ | yikaret | it may be cut off | H3772 → | 288 times |
הֵ֤םthey
hemH1992 →553 times
הִמְלִיכוּ֙they have made kings
himlikhuH4427 →
וְלֹ֣אand not
velo'H3808 →5168 times
מִמֶּ֔נִּיfrom me
mimeniH4480 →1188 times
הֵשִׂ֖ירוּthey have installed leaders
hesiruH7786 →
וְלֹ֣אand not
velo'H3808 →5168 times
יָדָ֑עְתִּיI knew
yadaetiH3045 →945 times
כַּסְפָּ֣םsilver their
kaspamH3701 →403 times
וּזְהָבָ֗םand gold their
uzehavamH2091 →
עָשׂ֤וּthey have made
ʾasuH6213 →2628 times
לָהֶם֙for <the> themselves
lahem
עֲצַבִּ֔יםidols
ʾatzabimH6091 →17 times
לְמַ֖עַןso that
lemaanH4616 →
יִכָּרֵֽת׃it may be cut off
yikaretH3772 →288 times
A shaded row is a word that stands 400 times or fewer in the Bible.
The walk
8 stopsEach card is a verse this one points to, and under it the verses that one points to in turn. Where several paths arrive at the same place, that place is listed first: the text keeps returning to it.
Through
John 10:14I am the good shepherd. I know My sheep and My sheep know Me,
it leads to
- John 10:27
My sheep listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me.
- 2 Timothy 2:19
Nevertheless, God’s firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord must turn away from iniquity.”
- John 10:11
I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.
- 1 John 5:20
And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true—in His Son…
- Ephesians 1:17
that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in your knowledge of Him.
- John 10:27
Through
1 Kings 16:31And as if it were not enough for him to walk in the sins of Jeroboam son of Nebat, he even married Jezebel the daughter of Ethbaal king of the Sidonians, and he then…
it leads to
- 2 Kings 17:16
They abandoned all the commandments of the LORD their God and made for themselves two cast idols of calves and an Asherah pole. They bowed down to all the host of heaven and served…
- 2 Kings 10:18
Then Jehu brought all the people together and said, “Ahab served Baal a little, but Jehu will serve him a lot.
- Judges 18:7
So the five men departed and came to Laish, where they saw that the people were living securely, like the Sidonians, tranquil and unsuspecting. There was nothing lacking in the land and no oppressive…
- 2 Kings 17:16
About Hosea
This page draws on 11 works. Open the list of works
This page draws on Adam Clarke, Commentary on the Bible; Albert Barnes, Notes, Explanatory and Practical, on the Old and New Testaments (1832-1869); Carl Friedrich Keil, The Twelve Minor Prophets; Cyprian, Epistle LXVII:4; Gregory the Dialogist, Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXV, Section 41; Jamieson, Fausset & Brown, Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible; Jerome, Commentary on Hosea 8:1-4; John Chrysostom, HOMILIES CONCERNING THE STATUES 3:5; John Gill, Exposition of the Old Testament; John Gill, Exposition of the Old Testament (1748-1763) and Matthew Henry, Commentary on the Whole Bible.
