1 Thessalonians 3:9
in 1 Thessalonians 3How can we adequately thank God for you in return for our great joy over you in His presence?
BSB
The same verse in ASV and KJV ▾
ASV
For what thanksgiving can we render again unto God for you, for all the joy wherewith we joy for your sakes before our God;
KJV
For what thanks can we render to God again for you, for all the joy wherewith we joy for your sakes before our God;
⋯
This verse in 1 Thessalonians 3
Commentary
9 notes on this verseA commentator
Albert Barnes1798–1870
Notes, Explanatory and Practical, on the Old and New Testaments (1832-1869)
For what thanks can we render to God again - That is, what expression of thanksgiving can we render to God that shall be an equivalent for the joy which your holy walk has furnished, or which will suitably express our gratitude for it.
This site's exposition
How can we adequately thank God for you
on 1 Thessalonians 3:9-10
Prayer follows the thanks at once, that we may see you face to face and supply what is lacking from your faith. That last clause states the letter's own purpose, a young faith whole in kind and still growing in measure.
The record, by era
The Church Fathers1 voice
"For what thanksgiving can we render again unto God for you, for all the joy wherewith we joy for your sakes before our God; night and day praying exceedingly that we may see your face, and may perfect that which is lacking in your faith?" Not only, he says, are ye the causes of life to us, but also of much joy, and so much that we cannot worthily give thanks to God. Your good behavior, he says, we consider to be the gift of God. Such kindnesses have you shown to us, that we think it to be of God; yea, rather, and it is of God. For such a disposition of mind comes not of a human soul or carefulness. "Night and day," he says, "praying exceedingly." This too is a sign of joy. For as any husbandman, hearing concerning his land that has been tilled by himself, that it is burdened with ears of grain, longs with his own eyes to see so pleasant a sight, so Paul to see Macedonia. "Praying exceedingly." Observe the excess; "that we may see your face, and may perfect that which is lacking in your faith." Here there is a great question. For if now thou livest, because they stand fast, and Timothy brought thee "glad tidings of their faith and love," and thou art full of so much joy as not to be able worthily to give thanks to God, how sayest thou here that there are deficiencies in their faith? Were those then the words of flattery? By no means, far be it. For previously he testified that they endured many conflicts, and were no worse affected than the Churches in Judaea. What then is it? They had not enjoyed the full benefit of his teaching, nor learned all that it behoved them to learn. And this he shows toward the end. Perhaps there had been questionings among them concerning the Resurrection, and there were many who troubled them, not by temptations, nor by dangers, but by acting the part of teachers. […]
The Medieval Church2 voices
Such, he says, is our joy over you, that we are not even able to worthily thank God for you. Your progress we consider a gift of God. For such a lofty feeling is not characteristic of the human soul or of human effort. That …
Then when Paul says, for what thanksgiving can we render to God for you, the second effect of their existent relationship is treated, namely, the spirit of thanksgiving, as if implying: I am not worthy to supply fitting thanks to God for you: "With what …
The Puritans and the Awakening2 voices
For what thanks can we render to God again or you,....
But he was careful God should not lose the glory of the comfort he received in the welfare of his friends. His heart was enlarged with love to them and with thanksgiving to God. He was willing to express the one and the other as well as he could.
2 more voices on this verse
The Nineteenth Century2 voices
A commentator
Jamieson, Fausset & Brown1802–1910
Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871)
proposed
It was "comfort," 1Th 3:7, now it is more, namely, joy. for your sakes--on your account. before our God--It is a joy which will bear God's searching eye: a joy as in the presence of God, not self-seeking, but disinterested, sincere, and spiritual (compare 1Th 2:20;
quarantine:debris (2026-07-29) — unbalanced-parens
What thanks can we render to God - The high satisfaction and uncommon joy which the apostle felt are strongly depicted in the language he uses. How near his heart did the success of his ministry lie! It was not enough for him that he preached so often, labored so hard, suffered so much; what were all these if souls were not converted? And what were all conversions, if those who embraced the Gospel did not walk steadily in the way to heaven, and persevere?
The words behind it
21 Greek wordsEvery Greek word of this verse in the order it stands, with what it means and the door to its own study. The last column counts the times a word stands in the whole Bible: the rarer the word, the more the places it appears belong together.
| Greek | Sound | Meaning | Word study | In the Bible |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| τίνα | tina | What | G5101 → | 563 times |
| γὰρ | gar | for | G1063 → | 1039 times |
| εὐχαριστίαν | eucharistian | thanksgiving | G2169 → | |
| δυνάμεθα | dunametha | are we able | G1410 → | |
| τῷ | to | <the> | G3588 → | 19766 times |
| θεῷ | theo | to God | G2316 → | 1312 times |
| ἀνταποδοῦναι | antapodounai | to give | G467 → | |
| περὶ | peri | concerning | G4012 → | 332 times |
| ὑμῶν | humon | you | G4771 → | 2973 times |
| ἐπὶ | epi | in return for | G1909 → | 883 times |
| πάσῃ | pase | all | G3956 → | 1235 times |
| τῇ | tea | the | G3588 → | 19766 times |
| χαρᾷ | chara | joy | G5479 → | 58 times |
| ᾗ | he | that | G3739 → | 1405 times |
| χαίρομεν | chairomen | we rejoice | G5463 → | |
| δι᾽ | di᾽ | because of | G1223 → | 664 times |
| ὑμᾶς | humas | you | G4771 → | 2973 times |
| ἔμπροσθεν | emprosthen | before | G1715 → | 48 times |
| τοῦ | tou | the | G3588 → | 19766 times |
| θεοῦ | theou | God | G2316 → | 1312 times |
| ἡμῶν, | hemon | of us, | G3165 → | 1936 times |
τίναWhat
tinaG5101 →563 times
γὰρfor
garG1063 →1039 times
εὐχαριστίανthanksgiving
eucharistianG2169 →
δυνάμεθαare we able
dunamethaG1410 →
τῷ<the>
toG3588 →19766 times
θεῷto God
theoG2316 →1312 times
ἀνταποδοῦναιto give
antapodounaiG467 →
περὶconcerning
periG4012 →332 times
ὑμῶνyou
humonG4771 →2973 times
ἐπὶin return for
epiG1909 →883 times
πάσῃall
paseG3956 →1235 times
τῇthe
teaG3588 →19766 times
χαρᾷjoy
charaG5479 →58 times
ᾗthat
heG3739 →1405 times
χαίρομενwe rejoice
chairomenG5463 →
δι᾽because of
di᾽G1223 →664 times
ὑμᾶςyou
humasG4771 →2973 times
ἔμπροσθενbefore
emprosthenG1715 →48 times
τοῦthe
touG3588 →19766 times
θεοῦGod
theouG2316 →1312 times
ἡμῶν,of us,
hemonG3165 →1936 times
A shaded row is a word that stands 400 times or fewer in the Bible.
The walk
5 stopsEach card is a verse this one points to, and under it the verses that one points to in turn. Where several paths arrive at the same place, that place is listed first: the text keeps returning to it.
Through
2 Corinthians 9:15Thanks be to God for His indescribable gift!
it leads to
- 2 Corinthians 2:14
But thanks be to God, who always leads us triumphantly as captives in Christ and through us spreads everywhere the fragrance of the knowledge of Him.
- Ephesians 5:20
always giving thanks to God the Father for everything in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
- John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
- Romans 8:32
He who did not spare His own Son but gave Him up for us all, how will He not also, along with Him, freely give us all things?
- James 1:17
Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, with whom there is no change or shifting shadow.
- 2 Corinthians 2:14
Where this verse is studied
On this page
Studies1
About 1 Thessalonians

This page draws on 9 works. Open the list of works
This page draws on Adam Clarke, Commentary on the Bible; Albert Barnes, Notes, Explanatory and Practical, on the Old and New Testaments (1832-1869); Albert Barnes, Notes on the New Testament; Jamieson, Fausset & Brown, Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible; John Chrysostom, Homily on 1 Thessalonians 4; John Gill, Exposition of the New Testament (1746-1748); Matthew Henry, Commentary on the Whole Bible; Theophylact of Ohrid, Commentary on 1 Thessalonians and Thomas Aquinas, Commentary on 1 Thessalonians.
