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1 Samuel 8:11

in 1 Samuel 8

He said, “This will be the manner of the king who will reign over you: He will take your sons and appoint them to his own chariots and horses, to run in front of his chariots.

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The same verse in ASV and KJV ▾

ASV

And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: he will take your sons, and appoint them unto him, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and they shall run before his chariots;

KJV

And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint them for himself, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and some shall run before his chariots.

This verse in 1 Samuel 8

Commentary

15 notes on this verse

A commentator

Jamieson, Fausset & Brown

1802–1910

Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871)

This will be the manner of the king--The following is a very just and graphic picture of the despotic governments which anciently and still are found in the East, and into conformity with which the Hebrew monarchy, notwithstanding the restrictions prescribed by the law, gradually slid.

This site's exposition

Samuel spoke all the words of the LORD

on 1 Samuel 8:10-12

The catalogue of taking opens with Israel's sons, set to the king's “chariots and horses, to run in front of his chariots”, then made commanders or sent to plow and reap for him. Deuteronomy 17:16 had forbidden the king to multiply horses for himself, and Samuel's first item is the thing the law had fenced off. What the elders picture as glory, Deuteronomy had already priced as loss.

This site's exposition

This will be the manner of the king

The manner of the king begins with the sons of Israel, taken to run in front of his chariots. John Gill reads the list as what kings will do, true in some measure of every king Israel would have. Jamieson, Fausset & Brown call it a picture of Eastern despotism.

The record, by era

The Church Fathers2 voices

A commentator

Apostolic Constitutions

Constitutions of the Holy Apostles Book 2 · Written before 380.

proposed

Account these worthy to be esteemed your rulers and your kings, and bring them tribute as to kings; for by you they and their families ought to be maintained. As Samuel made constitutions for the people concerning a king, in the first book of Kings, and Moses did so concerning priests in Leviticus, so do we also make constitutions for you concerning bishops. For if there the multitude distributed the inferior services in proportion to so great a king, ought not therefore the bishop much more now to receive of you those things which are determined by God for the sustenance of himself and of the rest of the clergy belonging to him? But if we may add somewhat further, let the bishop receive more than the other received of old: for he only managed the affairs of the soldiery, being entrusted with war and peace for the preservation of men's bodies; but the other is entrusted with the exercise of the priestly office in relation to God, in order to preserve both body and soul from dangers. By how much, therefore, the soul is more valuable than the body, so much the priestly office is beyond the kingly. For it binds and looses those that are worthy of punishment or of remission. Wherefore you ought to love the bishop as your father, and fear him as your king, and honour him as your lord, bringing to him your fruits and the works of your hands, for a blessing upon you, giving to him your first-fruits, and your tithes, and your oblations, and your gifts, as to the priest of God; the first-fruits of your wheat, and wine, and oil, and autumnal fruits, and wool, and all things which the Lord God gives thee. And thy offering shall be accepted as a savour of a sweet smell to the Lord thy God; and the Lord will bless the works of thy hands, and will multiply the good things of the land. "For a blessing is upon the head of him that giveth."

A commentator

John Chrysostom

Homily on 2 Corinthians 24 · Written in the 5th century.

proposed

And observe the wisdom of the prophet, or rather the loving kindness of God. For because he wished to turn them from [their design,] bringing together a number of grievous things he asserted them of their future king, as, for instance, that he would make their wives grind at the mill, the men shepherds and muleteers; for he went through all the service appertaining to the kingdom with minuteness. But when he saw that they would not be hindered by any of these things, but were incurably distempered; he thus both spareth them and composeth their king to gentleness.

The Medieval Church3 voices

A commentator

Gregory the Dialogist

Commentary on 1 Kings, Book 4, Chapter 4 · Written before 604.

proposed

What does it mean that the sons of the Israelites are said to be placed in the king's chariots? The chariots of the prelates of holy Church are their devout desires. For while they fervently seek heavenly joys, they are carried aloft as if in chariots. Hence Elijah is said to have been raised to heaven in a fiery chariot (2 Kings 2:1), because indeed one who does not seek heavenly joys through lofty and fervent desires cannot be raised to them. When, therefore, good hearers begin through the examples of preachers to despise earthly things and to love eternal things, the sons of the Israelites are indeed placed in the kings' chariots. And it should be noted that they are said both to be taken up and to be placed in chariots, because they must first be drawn away from carnal desires so that they may be properly inflamed by the fires of heavenly love. Because these earthly desires are not easily abandoned, the sons are said to be taken up. For it must happen through great violence that the chosen hearer completely abandons earthly desires and raises himself on high to heavenly things. Concerning this violence the Lord says: "The kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent seize it" (Matt. 11:12). Concerning this Paul says: "No one will be crowned unless he has competed lawfully" (2 Tim. 2:5). This is also shown covertly by these words, because the sons who are taken up are said to be placed not on seats but in chariots. The ancients were indeed accustomed to fight in chariots. And he who is carried in a chariot is borne lofty and terrible against the enemy. For chosen men are all the more lofty and terrible to hidden enemies the higher they have advanced in the sublimity of interior love. They are indeed lofty because the suggestion of evil spirits does not reach up to their intention. […]

A commentator

Bede

Commentary on Samuel · Written before 735.

proposed

This will be the law of the king who will rule over you. It does not explain what a moderate and just emperor should be like, whose perfection is taught in many places of the Holy Scriptures and especially in Deuteronomy; but rather it intimates …

A commentator

Bede

Commentary on Samuel · Written before 735.

proposed

He will take your sons, etc. You, he says, were called to freedom, brothers, only do not use freedom as an opportunity for the flesh (Gal. 5). Therefore, whoever gives the freedom into which he was called as an opportunity for the flesh, will soon, …
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The Medieval Church3 voices

A commentator

Bede

Commentary on Samuel · Written before 735.

proposed

And he will make for himself horsemen, etc. So much, he says, has the devil also subjected your stronger endeavors to himself, that through these he may strive to correct others with the bridle of error, to tame them, and to lead them to the …

A commentator

Gregory the Dialogist

Commentary on 1 Kings, Book 4, Chapter 2 · Written before 604.

proposed

1. For when Samuel was rejected, a king was sought: when the reprobate multitude of the people despises a spiritual pastor and seeks a carnal one to rule over them.

A commentator

Gregory the Dialogist

Commentary on 1 Kings, Book 4, Chapter 1 · Written before 604.

proposed

9. When subjection is sought by carnal men, assuredly whatever is commanded them is burdensome, even if it is not difficult: because since they have it from the swelling of pride that they follow the judgment of their own will, whatever opposes their deliberation they consider most grievous. But indeed when harsh and contrary things are commanded, what a weight of burden is that! What swelling of heart! When they could scarcely bear even pleasant and light things unwillingly—things which, if they had been willing, they would have borne most easily.

The Puritans and the Awakening3 voices

A commentator

Matthew Henry

1662–1714

Commentary on the Whole Bible (1710)

This is the chief grandeur of princes, and the imaginary glory of great men, to have a multitude of attendants. And whence must he have these? "Why, he will take your sons, who are free-born, have a liberal education, and whom you now have at your own disposal, and will appoint them for himself, "
And he said, this will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you,.... Not in which he ought to proceed, but what he will do: and this not the manner of one king, or of the first only, but of all of them, more or less; of kings in general, who are commonly inclined to arbitrary power.

A commentator

Matthew Henry

1662–1714

Commentary on the Whole Bible (1710)

proposed

This is the chief grandeur of princes, and the imaginary glory of great men, to have a multitude of attendants. And whence must he have these? "Why, he will take your sons, who are free-born, have a liberal education, and whom you now have at your own disposal, and will appoint them for himself, "

The Nineteenth Century1 voice

A commentator

Jamieson, Fausset & Brown

1802–1910

Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871)

proposed

This will be the manner of the king--The following is a very just and graphic picture of the despotic governments which anciently and still are found in the East, and into conformity with which the Hebrew monarchy, notwithstanding the restrictions prescribed by the law, gradually slid.

How the passage was read

What the Jewish commentators add

On the verses either side of this one

And to produce his implements of war. To train them as craftsmen, blacksmiths, and carpenters.
Rashi: France, 1040–1105 · Rashi on I Samuel 8:12:1, via Sefaria, The Metsudah Tanach series, Lakewood, N.J

This section is reception history: how the passage was read and kept in the Jewish tradition. Where a reading parts from an essential of the Christian faith, the section says so at that point.

Texts and citation data: Sefaria; each excerpt follows its version’s licence. 7 further sources are cited on this chapter that carry no English text this site may quote or only restate the verse.

The words behind it

18 Hebrew words

Every Hebrew word of this verse in the order it stands, with what it means and the door to its own study. The last column counts the times a word stands in the whole Bible: the rarer the word, the more the places it appears belong together.

  • וַיֹּ֕אמֶרand he said

    vaiyomerH559 →5305 times

  • זֶ֗הthis

    zehH2088 →1180 times

  • יִֽהְיֶה֙it will be

    yihyehH1961 →3559 times

  • מִשְׁפַּ֣ט[the] right[s] of

    mishpatH4941 →422 times

  • הַמֶּ֔לֶךְthe king

    hamelekhH4428 →2525 times

  • אֲשֶׁ֥רwho

    ʾasherH834 →5497 times

  • יִמְלֹ֖ךְhe will reign

    yimlokhH4427 →348 times

  • עֲלֵיכֶ֑םover you

    ʾaleikhemH5921 →5755 times

  • אֶת־<obj.>

    ʾet-H853 →10935 times

  • בְּנֵיכֶ֣םsons your

    beneikhemH1121 →4930 times

  • יִקָּ֗חhe will take

    yikachH3947 →966 times

  • וְשָׂ֥םand he will appoint [them]

    vesamH7760 →584 times

  • לוֹ֙for <the> himself

    lo

  • בְּמֶרְכַּבְתּ֣וֹin chariot[s] his

    bemerkavtoH4818 →

  • וּבְפָרָשָׁ֔יוand among horsemen his

    uvefarashavH6571 →

  • וְרָצ֖וּand they will run

    veratzuH7323 →103 times

  • לִפְנֵ֥י<to> before

    lifneiH6440 →2123 times

  • מֶרְכַּבְתּֽוֹ׃chariot his

    merkavtoH4818 →

A shaded row is a word that stands 400 times or fewer in the Bible.

The walk

8 stops

Each card is a verse this one points to, and under it the verses that one points to in turn. Where several paths arrive at the same place, that place is listed first: the text keeps returning to it.

  • Through

    1 Kings 10:26

    Solomon accumulated 1,400 chariots and 12,000 horses, which he stationed in the chariot cities and also with him in Jerusalem.

    it leads to

    • 2 Chronicles 9:25

      Solomon had 4,000 stalls for horses and chariots, and 12,000 horses, which he stationed in the chariot cities and also with him in Jerusalem.

    • 1 Kings 4:26

      Solomon had 4,000 stalls for his chariot horses and 12,000 horses.

    • 1 Kings 9:19

      as well as all the store cities that Solomon had for his chariots and horses—whatever he desired to build in Jerusalem, Lebanon, and throughout the land of his dominion.

  • Through

    1 Samuel 10:25

    Then Samuel explained to the people the rights of kingship. He wrote them on a scroll and laid it up before the LORD. And Samuel sent all the people away, each to his own…

    it leads to

    • 1 Samuel 8:11–18

      He said, “This will be the manner of the king who will reign over you: He will take your sons and appoint them to his own chariots and horses, to run in front of…

    • Deuteronomy 17:14–20

      When you enter the land that the LORD your God is giving you and have taken possession of it and settled in it, and you say, “Let us set a king over us like…

  • Through

    2 Samuel 15:1

    Some time later, Absalom provided for himself a chariot with horses and fifty men to run ahead of him.

    it leads to

    • 1 Kings 1:5

      At that time Adonijah, David’s son by Haggith, began to exalt himself, saying, “I will be king!” And he acquired chariots and horsemen and fifty men to run ahead of him.

    • Psalms 20:7

      Some trust in chariots and others in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God.

    • 2 Samuel 12:11

      This is what the LORD says: ‘I will raise up adversity against you from your own house. Before your very eyes I will take your wives and give them to another, and he will…

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About 1 Samuel

Anointing of David by Samuel, Félix-Joseph Barrias, 1842, Musée des Beaux-Arts de la ville de Paris. Public domain.
Anointing of David by Samuel, Félix-Joseph Barrias, 1842, Musée des Beaux-Arts de la ville de Paris. Public domain.
This page draws on 11 works. Open the list of works

This page draws on Albert Barnes, Notes on the Old Testament; Apostolic Constitutions, Constitutions of the Holy Apostles Book 2; Bede, Commentary on Samuel; Gregory the Dialogist, Commentary on 1 Kings, Book 4, Chapter 4; Gregory the Dialogist, Commentary on 1 Kings, Book 4, Chapter 2; Gregory the Dialogist, Commentary on 1 Kings, Book 4, Chapter 1; Jamieson, Fausset & Brown, Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible; John Chrysostom, Homily on 2 Corinthians 24; John Gill, Exposition of the Old Testament; John Gill, Exposition of the Old Testament (1748-1763) and Matthew Henry, Commentary on the Whole Bible.