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2 Thessalonians 2:5

in 2 Thessalonians 2

Do you not remember that I told you these things while I was still with you?

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ASV

Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

KJV

Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

This verse in 2 Thessalonians 2

Commentary

12 notes on this verse
Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? - The whole subject of the second coming of the Saviour seems to have constituted an important part of the instructions of Paul when at Thessalonica. He now refers them to what he had told them respecting the great apostasy, to show that his views had not changed, and that he did not mean to have them understand that the world would soon come to an end.

This site's exposition

He will oppose and exalt himself

on 2 Thessalonians 2:4-5

He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship, the course of the king in Daniel 11:36. The seat in the temple of God follows the line from Daniel 9:27 through the Lord’s warning at Matthew 24:15.

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I told you these things

Paul reminds them that the rebellion and the lawless one were part of his first preaching in Thessalonica. The Greek tense shows he told them often. This answers the claim that Paul changed his mind about the Lord's coming between the first letter and the second.

The record, by era

The Church Fathers2 voices

For in the last days false prophets shall be multiplied, and such as corrupt the word; and the sheep shall be changed into wolves, and love into hatred: for through the abounding of iniquity the love of many shall wax cold. For men shall hate, and persecute, and betray one another. And then shall appear the deceiver of the world, the enemy of the truth, the prince of lies, [2 Thessalonians 2:3-12] whom the Lord Jesus "shall destroy with the spirit of His mouth, who takes away the wicked with His lips; and many shall be offended at Him. But they that endure to the end, the same shall be saved. And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven;" [Isaiah 11:4; Matthew 24:1-51] and afterwards shall be the voice of a trumpet by the archangel; and in that interval shall be the revival of those that were asleep. And then shall the Lord come, and all His saints with Him, with a great concussion above the clouds, with the angels of His power, [Matthew 16:27] in the throne of His kingdom, to condemn the devil, the deceiver of the world, and to render to every one according to his deeds. "Then shall the wicked go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous shall go into life eternal," [Matthew 25:46] to inherit those things "which eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor have entered into the heart of man, such things as God has prepared for them that love Him;" [1 Corinthians 2:9] and they shall rejoice in the kingdom of God, which is in Christ Jesus.

A commentator

John Chrysostom

Homily on 2 Thessalonians 3 · Written before 407.

proposed

"Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things?" Seest thou that it is necessary continually to say the same things, and to enlarge upon them in the same words? For behold, they heard him saying these things when present, and again they had need to be reminded of them. For as when they had heard concerning afflictions, "For verily," he says, "when we were with you, we told you beforehand that we are to suffer affliction"; they nevertheless forgot it, and he confirms them again by letters; so also having heard concerning the Coming of Christ, they again needed letters to compose them. He therefore reminds them, showing that he speaks of nothing strange, but what he had always said. For as in the case of husbandmen, the seeds are indeed cast into the earth once for all, yet do not constantly remain, but require much preparation withal, and if they do not break up the earth, and cover over the seeds sown, they sow for the birds that gather grain; so we also, unless by constant remembrance we cover over what has been sown, have but cast it all into the air. For both the devil carries it away, and our sloth destroys it, and the sun dries it up, and the rain washes it away, and the thorns choke it: so that it is not sufficient after once sowing it to depart, but there is need of much assiduity, driving off the birds, roofing up the thorns, filling up the stony ground with much earth, checking, and fencing off, and taking away everything injurious. But in the case of the earth all depends upon the husbandman, for it is a lifeless subject, and prepared only to be passive. But in the spiritual soil it is quite otherwise. All is not the teachers' part, but half at least, if not more, that of the disciples. […]

The Medieval Church3 voices

A commentator

Thietland of Einsiedeln

Commentary (church-history corpus) · Written in the 10th century.

proposed

And, that is, Christ would not come unless the Antichrist came first.

A commentator

Thomas Aquinas

Commentary on 2 Thessalonians · Written before 1274.

proposed

Then when he says, "do you not remember", he shows that he is writing nothing new, as though to say: when I was with you long ago, I said this. "I do not write a new command for you, but an old command, which you …

A commentator

Theophylact of Ohrid

Commentary on 2 Thessalonians · Written before 1107.

proposed

From this it is clear that the apostle transmitted great mysteries to the Thessalonians, and not in writing. Do you see that it is necessary to constantly speak about the same thing, to persistently repeat the same words? Here they heard the apostle speaking about …
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The Puritans and the Awakening2 voices

A commentator

Matthew Henry

1662–1714

Commentary on the Whole Bible (1710)

proposed

), he had told them of when he was with them, with design, no doubt, that they should not take offence nor be stumbled at it. And let us observe that no sooner was Christianity planted and rooted in the world than there began to be a defection in the Christian church.

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The Nineteenth Century2 voices

A commentator

Jamieson, Fausset & Brown

1802–1910

Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871)

Remember, &c.--confuting those who represent Paul as having labored under error as to Christ's immediate coming when writing his first Epistle, and as now correcting that error. I told you--more than once, literally, "I was telling," or "used to tell."

A commentator

Adam Clarke

1762–1832

Commentary on the Bible · Written before 1832.

proposed

I told you these things - In several parts of this description of the man of sin, the apostle alludes to a conversation which had taken place between him and the members of this Church when he was at Thessalonica; and this one circumstance will account for much of the obscurity that is in these verses. Besides, the apostle appears to speak with great caution, and does not at all wish to publish what he had communicated to them; the hints which he drops were sufficient to call the whole to their remembrance.

The words behind it

10 Greek words

Every Greek word of this verse in the order it stands, with what it means and the door to its own study. The last column counts the times a word stands in the whole Bible: the rarer the word, the more the places it appears belong together.

A shaded row is a word that stands 400 times or fewer in the Bible.

The walk

8 stops

Each card is a verse this one points to, and under it the verses that one points to in turn. Where several paths arrive at the same place, that place is listed first: the text keeps returning to it.

  • Through

    Galatians 5:21

    and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

    it leads to

    • 1 Corinthians 6:9–10

      Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to or perform homosexual…

    • Romans 8:13

      For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

    • Romans 13:13

      Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy.

    • Ephesians 5:5–6

      For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure, or greedy person (that is, an idolater), has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

    • 1 Corinthians 5:11

      But now I am writing you not to associate with anyone who claims to be a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a verbal abuser, a drunkard or a swindler.…

  • Through

    John 16:4

    But I have told you these things so that when their hour comes, you will remember that I told you about them. I did not tell you these things from the beginning, because I…

    it leads to

    • John 14:29

      And now I have told you before it happens, so that when it does happen, you will believe.

    • Mark 13:23

      So be on your guard; I have told you everything in advance.

  • Through

    Matthew 16:9

    Do you still not understand? Do you not remember the five loaves for the five thousand, and how many basketfuls you gathered?

    it leads to

    • Matthew 14:17–21

      “We have here only five loaves of bread and two fish,” they answered.

Where this verse is studied

About 2 Thessalonians

Apostle Paul, Jan Lievens, 1627, Nationalmuseum. Public domain.
Apostle Paul, Jan Lievens, 1627, Nationalmuseum. Public domain.
This page draws on 10 works. Open the list of works

This page draws on Adam Clarke, Commentary on the Bible; Albert Barnes, Notes, Explanatory and Practical, on the Old and New Testaments (1832-1869); Apostolic Constitutions, Apostolic Constitutions (Book VII), Section 2, XXXII; Jamieson, Fausset & Brown, Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible; John Chrysostom, Homily on 2 Thessalonians 3; John Gill, Exposition of the New Testament (1746-1748); Matthew Henry, Commentary on the Whole Bible; Theophylact of Ohrid, Commentary on 2 Thessalonians; Thietland of Einsiedeln, Commentary (church-history corpus) and Thomas Aquinas, Commentary on 2 Thessalonians.