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Gregory the Dialogist

The Roman prefect who became a monk, then a reluctant pope, and taught the Middle Ages how to care for souls.

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This site quotes Gregory the Dialogist 628 times across 33 books, and lists 0 works.

  • Lived died 604.
  • Quoted here most in Job: 384 of 628.
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Gregory the Dialogist

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Kish, who is called harsh, signifies not only his elect, but also the Redeemer himself. For no one was harsher toward himself than he.

Commentary on 1 Kings, Book 4, Chapter 4, 604

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For the prophet, indicating the severity of this harshness, says: "Truly he himself bore our infirmities, and he himself carried our sorrows" (Isa. 53:4). For to die is not to suffer for mortals, who are subject to the suffering of a condemned nature.

1 Samuel 9:3 One day the donkeys of Saul’s father Kish wandered off, and Kish said to his son Saul, “Take one of the servants and go look for the donkeys.” BSB

There follows: "But as for me, far be it from me that I should sin against the Lord by ceasing to pray for you." 15.

Commentary on 1 Kings, Book 5, Chapter 2, 604

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He speaks these things, to whom the Lord said above concerning those to whom he speaks: "They have not rejected you, but me, that I should not reign over them." Behold, the prophet is rejected, and he speaks to those who reject him, saying: "Far be it from me that I should commit this sin against the Lord, that I should cease to pray for you."

1 Samuel 12:23 As for me, far be it from me that I should sin against the LORD by ceasing to pray for you. And I will continue to teach you the good and right way. BSB

When long afterward David sat against the battle lines of enemies, he wished from desire to drink water from the cistern of Bethlehem. His chosen soldiers, breaking through the midst of the opposing forces, brought back unharmed the water the king had desired.

Forty Gospel Homilies, Homily 34, 604

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But the man instructed by scourges immediately reproached himself for having desired water at the peril of his soldiers, and pouring it out, he offered it to the Lord, as it is written there: He poured it out to the Lord.

2 Samuel 23:16 So the three mighty men broke through the Philistine camp, drew water from the well near the gate of Bethlehem, and brought it back to David. But he refused to drink it; instead, he poured it out to the LORD, BSB

Behold, His servants are not stedfast, and in His Angels He found folly: How much more in them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation is in the dust, which shall be consumed as by the moth?

Morals on the Book of Job, Book V, 604

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Though the Angelical nature, by being fixed in contemplation of the Creator, remains unchangeable in its own state, yet hereby, that it is a created being, it admits in itself the variableness of change. Now to be changed is to go from one thing into another, and to be without stability in one's self.

Job 4:18–19 If God puts no trust in His servants, and He charges His angels with error, how much more those who dwell in houses of clay, whose foundations are in the dust, who can be crushed like a moth! BSB

MORAL INTERPRETATION. But he shall save the poor from the sword of their mouth, and from the hand of the mighty. For the 'poor' is everyone that is not set up in his own eyes.

Morals on the Book of Job, Book VI, 604

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And hence 'Truth' saith in the Gospel, Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Now a person is drawn into sin in two ways. For either he is led on by pleasure, or overcome by fear. For 'the sword of the mouth' is the mischievousness of persuasion, but 'the hand of the mighty' is the opposition of power.

Job 5:15 He saves the needy from the sword in their mouth and from the clutches of the powerful. BSB

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Gregory was born in Rome about 540, into an old senatorial family with money and land. The Rome he grew up in was a wreck. Plague came through in waves. The Lombards were burning their way down the peninsula. A city that had once held a million people was down to a few tens of thousands, camped among ruins it could no longer repair. About 573 he became prefect of the city — the highest civil office left in Rome. Then he walked away from it. He turned the family mansion on the Caelian Hill into a monastery of St. Andrew and used the family estates in Sicily to found six more. He later said those were the happiest years of his life. He was pulled back out. For roughly six years he served as the pope's representative at the imperial court in Constantinople, learning how empires actually work. He came home to Rome, and in 590 plague killed Pope Pelagius II. The city elected Gregory. He tried to refuse. He called the office a burden and began signing his letters servus servorum Dei — servant of the servants of God. Popes still use the title. He governed like a man who expected no help. He fed Rome out of the church's own estates, kept careful accounts of grain and the poor who received it, and negotiated peace with the Lombard king Agilulf when the emperor in Constantinople would not. In 596 he sent the monk Augustine and about forty companions to convert the English. Bede preserved the story behind it: Gregory seeing fair-haired boys for sale in the Roman market and asking who they were. Angles, he was told. Not Angles but angels, he answered. He wrote the Pastoral Rule, a short and practical book on how a pastor should live and how differently he must speak to the proud man and the frightened one. It became the standard handbook for bishops for a thousand years; King Alfred had it put into English. His Moralia on Job, thirty-five books long, was the most-copied commentary of the early Middle Ages. His Dialogues — four books of stories about Italian holy men, including the only life we have of Benedict — gave him his Eastern name. In Greek churches he is Gregory the Dialogist, and the Liturgy of the Presanctified Gifts is called by his name. He was ill for most of his working life: gout, and a stomach complaint that often kept him off his feet. He wrote about it plainly in his letters. He died on 12 March 604. Sources: Bede, Ecclesiastical History of the English People; Gregory the Great, Pastoral Rule and Dialogues; Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church, vol. IV; The Catholic Encyclopedia (1913).

628 quotations across 33 books

Where this voice is quoted

Job 33:27Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXIV (604)

Then he sings before men with these words: ‘I have sinned and perverted what was right; yet I did not get what I deserved.

He will look on men, and will say, I have sinned. He would not know himself to be a sinner, if he had not righteousness. For no one detects his own deformity, except when he has begun to be upright.

Job 33:28Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXIV (604)

He redeemed my soul from going down to the Pit, and I will live to see the light.’

For he hath delivered his soul from going onwards to destruction. Because when Divine Grace goes before us in good works, our free will follows it, we, who yield our consent to God Who delivers us, are said to deliver ourselves; and hence Paul when…

Job 33:30Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXIV (604)

to bring back his soul from the Pit, that he may be enlightened with the light of life.

That he may recal their souls from corruption, and enlighten them with the light of the living. For that is the light of the dying which we behold with our bodily eyes.

Job 33:31–33Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXIV (604)

Pay attention, Job, and listen to me; be silent, and I will speak.

Eliu has uttered great and very powerful words. But it is a characteristic of every boastful person, that, while giving utterance to truths and mysteries, he suddenly blends with them, through pride of heart, some foolish and proud expressions.

Job 34:4Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXIV (604)

Let us choose for ourselves what is right; let us learn together what is good.

Let us choose to us judgment, and let us see among ourselves what is the best. But we easily learn, by considering the words which follow, whether he sought for this judgment from humility of heart.

Job 34:5–6Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXIV (604)

For Job has declared, ‘I am righteous, yet God has deprived me of justice. Would I lie about my case? My wound is incurable, though I am without transgression.’

For Job hath said, I am just, and God hath subverted my judgment. For in judging me there is falsehood: and mine arrow is violent without any sin. He complains that Job had spoken these things, [See chap.

Job 34:9Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXIV (604)

For he has said, ‘It profits a man nothing that he should delight in God.’

For he hath said, A man will not please God, even though he run with Him. But that he never said so, every one acknowledges who reads the words of blessed Job.

Job 34:10–11Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXIV (604)

Therefore listen to me, O men of understanding. Far be it from God to do wrong, and from the Almighty to act unjustly.

Let unmercifulness ['impietas'] be far from God, and iniquity from the Almighty: for the work of a man shall He render unto him, and will restore to them according to the ways of every man.

Job 34:12Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXIV (604)

Indeed, it is true that God does not act wickedly, and the Almighty does not pervert justice.

For truly God will not condemn without cause, nor will the Almighty subvert judgment. The Lord said to the devil, Thou hast moved Me against him to afflict him without cause. [Job 2, 3] But Eliu says, That the Lord will not condemn without cause.

Job 34:14Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXIV (604)

If He were to set His heart to it and withdraw His Spirit and breath,

If he hath directed his heart towards Him, He will gather to Himself his spirit, and his breath. The heart is crooked, when it seeks for things below. It is made straight when it is raised to things above.

Job 34:17Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXIV (604)

Could one who hates justice govern? Will you condemn the just and mighty One,

Can he be healed that loveth not judgment? How dost thou so much condemn him that is just? He uttered a proper sentiment, but it ought not to have been uttered to blessed Job.

Job 34:20Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXV (604)

They die in an instant, in the middle of the night. The people convulse and pass away; the mighty are removed without human hand.

Suddenly shall they die, and the people shall bow down at midnight, and pass away. However long it be before the ungodly are taken out of this life, they are taken away suddenly, and at an instant, since they know not how to foresee their…

Job 34:21Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXV (604)

For His eyes are on the ways of a man, and He sees his every step.

For His eyes are over the ways of men, and He considers all their steps. For He was then believed not to observe them, while this man of violence was committing, unpunished, all the wickedness he could.

Job 34:22Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXV (604)

There is no darkness or deep shadow where the workers of iniquity can hide.

There is no darkness, and there is no shadow of death, where they who work iniquity may be hid. What did he intend to designate by darkness but ignorance, and what by the shadow of death, except oblivion?

Job 34:28Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXV (604)

They caused the cry of the poor to come before Him, and He heard the outcry of the afflicted.

That they might cause the cry of the needy to come to Him, and that He might hear the voice of the poor. For when these men are proud, they who are oppressed by their pride, cry aloud to God.

Job 34:34–35Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXVI (604)

Men of understanding will declare to me, and the wise men who hear me will say: ‘Job speaks without knowledge; his words lack insight.’

Let men of understanding speak to me, and let a wise man hear me. But Job hath spoken foolishly, and his words sound not of discipline.

Job 34:36Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXVI (604)

If only Job were tried to the utmost for answering like a wicked man.

My Father, let Job be tried even to the end. Lo! how he lifts up even in words of cursing, that which he had before conceived of the swellings of arrogance.

Job 34:37Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXVI (604)

For he adds rebellion to his sin; he claps his hands among us and multiplies his words against God.”

Who hath added blasphemy upon his sins. He accuses him of having deserved scourges for his sins, and of having sinned after the scourges.

Job 35:1Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXVI (604)

And Elihu went on to say:

Eliu therefore spake these words again. Every one, who says many things, is anxious to be always beginning, in his speech, in order, by this very beginning, to keep his hearers in suspense, so that they may be the more attentively silent, the more they…

Job 35:2Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXVI (604)

“Do you think this is just? You say, ‘I am more righteous than God.’

Doth thy thought seem right to thee, that thou saidst, I am more righteous than God. Every one observes, who reads the text of the history, that blessed Job did not say that he was more righteous than God.

Job 35:3Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXVI (604)

For you ask, ‘What does it profit me, and what benefit do I gain apart from sin?’

For thou saidst, that which is right doth not please thee, or what will it profit thee, if I shall have sinned. If the whole course of the book is attended to, blessed Job is proved to have said none of these things.

Job 35:4Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXVI (604)

I will reply to you and to your friends as well.

I will therefore answer thy words, and thy friends with thee. In his former saying, he mentioned culpable words, as if those of blessed Job, and derived from them matter for his remarks.

Job 35:8Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXVI (604)

Your wickedness affects only a man like yourself, and your righteousness only a son of man.

Thine iniquity will hurt a man, who is like thee, and thy righteousness will profit the son of man. The iniquity of man hurts him, whom it pollutes by perversion. And, again, our righteousness profits him, whom it converts from his wickedness.

Job 35:12Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXVI (604)

There they cry out, but He does not answer, because of the pride of evil men.

There they will cry, and He will not hear, because of the pride of evil men. There; namely, in tribulation: as it is written on the other hand of joy, The children of thy servants shall inhabit there. [Ps.

Job 35:13Morals on the Book of Job, Book XXVI (604)

Surely God does not listen to empty pleas, and the Almighty does not take note of it.

For God will not hear without reason, and the Almighty will behold the causes of men one by one.